Hockey and basketball: Different surface, same strategies
Old 01-04-2010, 07:58 AM   #1 (permalink)
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OK, so I'm watching Team Canada vs. Team USA at the World Junior Championships with a very knowledgeable hockey man, Russ Herrington, who happens to be fine coach and a neighbour, and it turns out he is the brother-in-law of one of the Canadian coaches, Steve Spott. We're watching closely and get to chatting and it's amazing how similar the strategy is in hockey and basketball with respect to puck/ball movement and defensive schemes. The vaunted "neutral zone trap" in hockey is akin to a half court trap in basketball that is put into play on the ice. I wonder if some of the youngsters realize that the late Fred "the Fog" Shero who coached the Philadelphia Flyers to Stanley Cups in the 1970's (you yung 'uns can google him) actually used basketball zone presses for his forechecking schemes.

I guess that the similarities lead to things like Cavaliers head coach Mike Brown showing video and imploring his team to make the "hockey pass" which is, in NBA circles, the pass that leads to the assist. Cleveland actually rewards players for that pass and charted it last season. It's probably why the NBA should modify its assist rules. Somewhere, there may be an article in my parents basement that was written for a coaching magazine, some 25-30 years ago where a friend of mine who was coaching hockey and I, a budding University coach at the time, did an in-depth look at strategy crossover in the two disciplines. Please don't ask me to find it, my mom has probably recycled it long ago.

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Old 01-04-2010, 09:28 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I think packing the paint is close to what the neutral zone trap does in terms of neutralizing offensive options and uglying up the game.
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Old 01-04-2010, 09:39 AM   #3 (permalink)
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My strategies for NBA 2k10, and NHL 10 are basically the same. Protect the paint/net while everybody picking up a man in transition, and move the ball/puck on offense
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Basketball and Hockey are identical in many ways.

And no, Packing the paint isn't one of them, not really.
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I still prefer basketball - I can't see the puck too well...
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Is this a ploy to get puck heads to watching basketball?
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Basketball and Hockey are identical in many ways.

And no, Packing the paint isn't one of them, not really.
so taking away the ability to carry the puck over the blueline and shrinking the amount of space the offense has to work with is absolutely nothing like taking away the ability to drive to the basket and shrinking the court? Humbug. I like my analogy better than Jones'.
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I wish the Raptors would start playing the man and not the ball a bit more.
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Old 01-04-2010, 12:22 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I wish the Raptors would start playing the man and not the ball a bit more.
or get in a fight... ;D
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so taking away the ability to carry the puck over the blueline and shrinking the amount of space the offense has to work with is absolutely nothing like taking away the ability to drive to the basket and shrinking the court? Humbug. I like my analogy better than Jones'.
No No, you're right.

I just didn't like it reduced to just that is all.

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Old 01-04-2010, 12:53 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I wish the Raptors would start playing the man and not the ball a bit more.
I comptely agree. I think the key is to guard your man, yet have good reactions to help when another man gets beat, and communicate.

I really don't like when one player has the ball, and all 5 Raptors are just looking at him.

However, the Raps are showing much improvement in this aspect.

BTW, I don't think it takes chemistry to do this, because if you communicate and stick to principles, you can even do it in pick up ball. It's a matter of defensive awareness IMO
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Basketball and Hockey are identical in many ways.

And no, Packing the paint isn't one of them, not really.
In hockey, if you play a man outside he'll dance around you....protecting the middle is key. Gotta protect the house.
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Old 01-04-2010, 03:09 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Lacrosse and basketball are more similar. I guess you can make a case for hockey being close behind.
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