Has The International Approach Failed Us?
Old 06-26-2008, 11:19 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Curious to know what you guys think? It would appear now that we're reverting back to the old fashion way of filling a roster with the use of North Americans and few international players. Once the trade is official and assuming that Delfino is gone now too, that leaves us with only Jose and Andrea.

Also, what happened to Colangelo being big on character players? Considering O'Neal past, he doesn't really fit that type either. Bryan lowering his standards because of the tight market?

So what gives?
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Old 06-26-2008, 11:31 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Old 06-26-2008, 11:35 AM   #3 (permalink)
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i don't know.

I think most of us would agree that this is just the right trade.

Personally i always the whole idea of only going after certain players to be narrow minded. You've got to get the best players you can - regardless of where they're from. I still like the idea of having "euro skill", but i also like the toughness that JO will bring. It's about finding a good balance. Something i think BC completely realizes - and has always known.
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Curious to know what you guys think? It would appear now that we're reverting back to the old fashion way of filling a roster with the use of North Americans and few international players. Once the trade is official and assuming that Delfino is gone now too, that leaves us with only Jose and Andrea.

Also, what happened to Colangelo being big on character players? Considering O'Neal past, he doesn't really fit that type either. Bryan lowering his standards because of the tight market?

So what gives?
1. Yes I do think the international thing was a failure. I had hope that it might work, but was never really confident, because honestly, when was the last time an international player lead their team to a championship? It's never been done, because almost every single one is soft (Gasol, Dirk, etc... with the exception of Manu who wasn't even the #1 player on the team). Has Colangelo totally given up on it? Maybe. But to say that just because we traded for JO, is wrong.

2. Colangelo is high on high character guys, but he does take risks sometimes, and goes for that player that has questionable issues. But he only adds them to his team if he knows that they, deep down, are truly not as bad as others may perceive. For example, Amare Stoudemire was expelled from like three high schools. What did Colangelo do? He drafted him after sitting down with him for a long time, and really assessing his personality.

JO's "character" is the least of my concerns. Nor is his injury problems, as SJ has explicity stated we shouldn't be worried about. What I'm worried about is how he would like it here. Is he happy to be in Toronto, Canada? ETC.
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Old 06-26-2008, 11:53 AM   #5 (permalink)
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when was the last time an international player lead their team to a championship?
You do know where Duncan is from, right?
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Old 06-26-2008, 12:04 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Curious to know what you guys think? It would appear now that we're reverting back to the old fashion way of filling a roster with the use of North Americans and few international players. Once the trade is official and assuming that Delfino is gone now too, that leaves us with only Jose and Andrea.

Also, what happened to Colangelo being big on character players? Considering O'Neal past, he doesn't really fit that type either. Bryan lowering his standards because of the tight market?

So what gives?
Back to back playoff appearances after missing the playoffs four straight seasons and a division championship, a Coach of the Year Award and a GM of the year Award. I'm going to say no, it didn't fail this team. I think Colangelo has made signings which were the best cost effective options and that just so happens to be mostly International ballers.
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Old 06-26-2008, 12:42 PM   #7 (permalink)
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You do know where Duncan is from, right?
Don't forget his cohorts Parker (pretty sure he was Finals MVP in '07) and Ginoboli. They're pretty big cogs in that wheel.
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I doubt colangelo has "a thing" for international players. But he's very smart, and he understands that the cost/value ratio of international playes is very often largely superior to domestic ones. I mean, Parker for 4 millions? That's a major steal imo. Garbajosa for under 4? Same. Calderon for 2? and so on.

However, since the euro's dramatic rise, the ratio might be reversing quickly. International players are becoming more "expensive" and less enticing, especially that you run bigger risks with them since you can't be sure how they will adapt.
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