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VanCity 08-14-2009 01:53 PM

Griffin tops, but rooks like Flynn, DeRozan, too
 
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His fellow rookies love DeMar DeRozan's athletic ability.
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Survey: Griffin tops, but rooks like Flynn, DeRozan, too

By John Schuhmann, NBA.com
Posted Aug 14 2009 10:58AM

For the last several months, reporters, bloggers, team personnel and fans have had plenty to say about the Draft Class of 2009. We made projections before the Draft, gave analysis after it and made evaluations from the Summer League.

No one knows the rookies, though, like the rookies themselves. So we took a survey of 35 of them to get the inside scoop on the best of the group.

Blake Griffin has long been considered head and shoulders above the rest of his class, so it's no surprise that he headlines the survey. But he didn't dominate any of our questions the way Stephen Curry did with the best shooter question.

If fans get to vote for a rookie to participate in the dunk contest this year, the rest of the class likely will be disappointed if DeMar DeRozan doesn't go to Dallas. And for a great individual matchup, tune in on Jan. 26 and Jan. 31, when the man the rookies picked as the best playmaker, Jonny Flynn of the Timberwolves, goes up against one of the best defenders, Toney Douglas of the Knicks.

Here are the results. Note that players were not allowed to vote for themselves, their NBA teammates or their college teammates. And if they did (which happened despite clear instructions), their vote was discounted for that question.

Who will be the 2009-10 Rookie of the Year?

1. Blake Griffin, L.A. Clippers -- 54.8 percent

"At 6-10, he does a lot of stuff that small forwards or guards do. He's in a league of his own in that respect, and he's so skilled."

2. Jonny Flynn, Minnesota -- 12.9 percent

James Harden, Oklahoma City -- 12.9 percent

4. Stephen Curry, Golden State -- 6.5 percent

Others receiving votes: DeMar DeRozan (TOR), Tyreke Evans (SAC), Brandon Jennings (MIL), James Johnson (CHI)

One player actually signed his name for his answer like he was signing an autograph. You have to admire his belief in himself, but of course, that vote didn't count.

Which rookie is most ready to contribute right away?

1. Blake Griffin, L.A. Clippers -- 37.1 percent

"He's got talent and he works at it. They say that hard work beats talent, but Blake has both. He works hard all the time."

2. Jonny Flynn, Minnesota -- 17.1 percent

3. Tyreke Evans, Sacramento -- 14.3 percent

James Harden, Oklahoma City -- 14.3 percent

5. James Johnson, Chicago -- 5.7 percent

Others receiving votes: Stephen Curry (GSW), DeMar DeRozan (TOR), Brandon Jennings (MIL), DaJuan Summers (DET)

From the responses to the first three questions, it's clear that Griffin, Flynn and Harden are the consensus top three in the class.

Which rookie will have the best career?

1. Blake Griffin, L.A. Clippers -- 20.6 percent

"His body is built for the NBA and built to be productive for a long time. He has a lot to polish in his game to make him an even better player down the road."

2. Jonny Flynn, Minnesota -- 11.8 percent

James Harden, Oklahoma City -- 11.8 percent

4. Stephen Curry, Golden State -- 5.9 percent

DeMar DeRozan, Toronto -- 5.9 percent

Tyreke Evans, Sacramento -- 5.9 percent

Gerald Henderson, Charlotte -- 5.9 percent

Jeff Teague, Atlanta -- 5.9 percent

Hasheem Thabeet, Memphis -- 5.9 percent

Others receiving votes: Chase Buddinger (HOU), Earl Clark (PHX), Brandon Jennings (MIL), James Johnson (CHI), Ty Lawson (DEN), DaJuan Summers (DET), Terrence Williams (NJN)

This is the question that generated the biggest variety of responses.

Which rookie is being most overlooked?

1. DeJuan Blair, San Antonio -- 15.6 percent

2. Toney Douglas, New York -- 9.4 percent

Jrue Holiday, Philadelphia -- 9.4 percent

DaJuan Summers, Detroit -- 9.4 percent

Sam Young, Memphis -- 9.4 percent

6. Taylor Griffin, Phoenix -- 6.3 percent

James Johnson, Chicago -- 6.3 percent

Ty Lawson, Denver -- 6.3 percent

Terrence Williams, New Jersey -- 6.3 percent

Others receiving votes: Omri Casspi (SAC), Earl Clark (PHX), Darren Collison (NOH), Austin Daye (DET), Jonny Flynn (MIN), Eric Maynor (UTA), Jermaine Taylor (HOU)

The players answered Blair because he dropped to the second round, but for the most part, the media has lauded the Spurs for the pick.

Which rookie is the most athletic?

1. DeMar DeRozan, Toronto -- 47.1 percent

"His leaping ability is incredible. I wouldn't be surprised if he won the dunk contest this year."

2. Terrence Williams, New Jersey -- 20.6 percent

3. Blake Griffin, L.A. Clippers -- 14.7 percent

4. Jonny Flynn, Minnesota -- 5.9 percent

Sam Young, Memphis -- 5.9 percent

Others receiving votes: Gerald Henderson (CHA), Jordan Hill (NYK)

DeRozan and Williams have completely different body types. DeRozan is skinny, while Williams is thick and strong.

Which rookie is the best shooter?

1. Stephen Curry, Golden State -- 79.4 percent

"He knows how to get his shot off, even though he's a small guard, and he gets it off really quick."

2. Jodie Meeks, Milwaukee -- 8.8 percent

3. Wayne Ellington, Minnesota -- 5.9 percent

Others receiving votes: Austin Daye (DET), DaJuan Summers (DET)

They're apparently willing to overlook Curry's 32.5 percent from the field in Summer League.

Which rookie is the best defender?

1. Toney Douglas, New York -- 23.3 percent

Hasheem Thabeet, Memphis -- 23.3 percent

"The combination of [Douglas'] strength and his lateral quickness makes him a good defender. You've got to make a lot of moves to get past him."

"[Thabeet] can block shots and change shots with his size. It's tough to attack the basket with somebody that big in the middle."

3. Jrue Holiday, Philadelphia -- 16.7 percent

4. Darren Collison, New Orleans -- 10.0 percent

Terrence Williams, New Jersey -- 10.0 percent

6. DeMarre Carroll, Memphis -- 6.7 percent

Others receiving votes: DeMar DeRozan (TOR), Jonny Flynn (MIN), Jeff Pendergraph (POR)

The long and the short of it. Thabeet is 7-foot-3. Douglas is 6-foot-1.

Which rookie is the best playmaker?

1. Jonny Flynn, Minnesota -- 40.0 percent

"He plays like he's been playing in the league already. He's got that whole swagger about him."

2. Brandon Jennings, Milwaukee -- 31.4 percent

3. Tyreke Evans, Sacramento -- 5.7 percent

Blake Griffin, L.A. Clippers -- 5.7 percent

Terrence Williams, New Jersey -- 5.7 percent

Others receiving votes: Rodrigue Beaubois (DAL), Ty Lawson (Denver), Eric Maynor (UTA), Jeff Teague (ATL)

Of the 23 rookies who wrote Flynn's name as their response to any of the questions, only six spelled "Jonny" correctly.

What will be the biggest adjustment for you playing in the NBA?

1. Schedule (number of games) -- 37.1 percent

2. Pace or style of play -- 25.7 percent

3. Physicality or talent of players -- 14.3 percent

4. Lifestyle/Off-court issues -- 8.6 percent

New position or role -- 8.6 percent

Also receiving votes: Staying healthy, Travel

An 82-game schedule has to be pretty intimidating when you've never played more than 35 or so.

Would you rather make the Playoffs or be a starter for your team this season?

1. Playoffs -- 87.1 percent

2. Starter -- 12.9 percent

Wouldn't you love to know who answered "Starter?"
LINK: NBA.com: Survey: Griffin tops, but rooks like Flynn, DeRozan, too

nice to see DeRozan gettin some love...

Febreezy 08-14-2009 02:04 PM

DeRozan is up there :yeah:, but I'd sure as hell love to see who said "Starter" over "Playoffs".

Dark Knight 08-14-2009 02:05 PM

Brandon Jennings answered starter :mischief:

You just know it.

Febreezy 08-14-2009 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark Knight (Post 227705)
Brandon Jennings answered starter :mischief:

You just know it.

Other then him, fuckin' cocky bastard.

zachus 08-14-2009 02:13 PM

Demar Derozan getting votes for best defender, interesting...

It'd be awesome to see him in the dunk contest!

rapsdabest 08-14-2009 02:14 PM

I acutally don't think Blake Griffin will be rookie of the year. It'll probably be Tyreke Evans as he is kind of like Oscar Robertson. He will average 16 7 5 opposed to Griffin's 20 8. Overall, Tyreke Evans and Demar Derozan have the most potential in the rookie class after you count Blake. I expect great things from Demar.

zachus 08-14-2009 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Febreezy (Post 227704)
DeRozan is up there :yeah:, but I'd sure as hell love to see who said "Starter" over "Playoffs".

Let me put it into perspective:

Amazing team, zero court time, playoffs.

Or

Crappy team, all the playing time in the world, no playoffs.

The scenarios might not necessarily be that extreme, but some guys wanna play, what's the big deal?

rapsdabest 08-14-2009 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by zachus (Post 227713)
Let me put it into perspective:

Amazing team, zero court time, playoffs.

Or

Crappy team, all the playing time in the world, no playoffs.

The scenarios might not necessarily be that extreme, but some guys wanna play, what's the big deal?

Remember Courtney Lee? He did get significant minutes in the playoffs and played well (except for the missed alley-oop)

sixel 08-14-2009 03:47 PM

I hope DD is in the all nba first rookie team

DuCa00795 08-14-2009 03:50 PM

hmm, DeRozan getting recognized for defence... I wouldn't say this guy watched him to much in Uni, I mean he's really athletic and some may assume he can play defence, but defence is really one of his major problems.

Cheers

VanCity 08-14-2009 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DuCa00795 (Post 227760)
hmm, DeRozan getting recognized for defence... I wouldn't say this guy watched him to much in Uni, I mean he's really athletic and some may assume he can play defence, but defence is really one of his major problems.

Cheers

ummm what??....did you watch derozan in college?....defense is one of his major assets....

Wiseguy 08-14-2009 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by A00715890 (Post 227769)
ummm what??....did you watch derozan in college?....defense is one of his major assets....

usc's tim floyd is famous for the zone defence that his team plays. this prevents his players from showing off their defensive abilities. the talk about derozan being a good defender is a result of him preaching that he wants to be a good defender and that he will attempt to dedicate himself to it, rather than proving himself to be an elite defender. in college defense was decidely not one of his major assests. however, saying defence was a major problem is just as unfounded.

rapsdabest 08-14-2009 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Wiseguy (Post 227904)
usc's tim floyd is famous for the zone defence that his team plays. this prevents his players from showing off their defensive abilities. the talk about derozan being a good defender is a result of him preaching that he wants to be a good defender and that he will attempt to dedicate himself to it, rather than proving himself to be an elite defender. in college defense was decidely not one of his major assests. however, saying defence was a major problem is just as unfounded.

Yeah, it's true. Derozan doesn't expect everything to come for him in the NBA and he knows and will work hard for it. Even if he becomes a bust, teams will still want him because of his attitude.

halphbreedballer 08-14-2009 11:58 PM

Alot of people here in rf don't think 2-D has any defensive skills but I do...& so does the person & voters for this article.

Over all his defensive stat line isn't full of steals or blocks but he was off the charts in summer league with his defensive fg%


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