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Old 12-09-2013, 06:15 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I assume for us Vasquez is a piece of the trade that is of interest. I remember being impressed with Vasquez last year but can't say I know that much about him. What has happened to him since? And is this a guy who can usurp Lowry as a starter? Or if/when Lowry is traded, to take over?


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Old 12-09-2013, 06:46 PM   #2 (permalink)
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He's a facilitator with minimal impact on defense if not a negative impact. Calderón - lite.
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Old 12-09-2013, 06:51 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Calderon is Vasquez lite
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Old 12-09-2013, 07:08 PM   #4 (permalink)
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He has good size (6'6" 200+lbs)... and he's shown that he can pass and rebound the ball... and score in a pinch too.

VERY good backup... perhaps a starter in the right situation (much like Jose).
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Old 12-09-2013, 07:08 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Vasquez and Calderon aren't too similar, other than both can pass and neither can defend. Calderon is a shooter and clearly the better point guard / player, Vasquez is a tall guy who drives and dishes.

Vasquez is a very solid backup. And he'll be a good tank driver once Lowry gets traded. He'll play the right way and help the young guys grow, but he won't be a difference maker in games. Quick guards will have fun vs. this team.
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Old 12-09-2013, 07:50 PM   #6 (permalink)
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He caught my eye in college. I liked his aggressive play, which is not so much like Calderon. He can put some nice pressure on defenses. I'm not sure he always makes the best decisions, or that he is a guy we really want to start. He'd be a beautiful backup in my mind. But a lot would depend on how he fits overall. I wouldn't want to limit him nor romanticize his game at this point, but rather just see what develops. I was surprised to hear he was 27. Time flies.
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I was surprised to hear he was 27. Time flies.
i thought i saw that he was 26?

bahh, too lazy to look. lol
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Old 12-09-2013, 07:53 PM   #8 (permalink)
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i thought i saw that he was 26?

bahh, too lazy to look. lol
He's almost 27.
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Old 12-09-2013, 07:55 PM   #9 (permalink)
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He's almost 27.
oh, yeah i never saw what month he was born in. doesn't really matter.....27 it is


i have a feeling GC will be a fan fav here, unless he is traded of course. lol
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Old 12-09-2013, 08:01 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Recommend this piece. honest evaluation of him after last year's breakout campaign.

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I’m going to need to break this section down into parts. One has to wonder if part of Vasquez’ numbers come from an offense that is very point-guard-centric. Brian Roberts stepped in a put up some good numbers (remember the Nuggets game?) and, depending on how you view it, could be a knock down on Vasquez’ season. Another startling statistic is that the Hornets had assists on 59% of their field goals with Vasquez on the court. When he sat the team had assists on 56% of their makes. It’s a difference of 3%. For a player with an assist percentage of 45 and all sorts of good looking stats, you’d expect that difference to be much higher. It raises an eyebrow.

Shooting/Scoring
On the season Vasquez had a TS of 50.2% and an eFG of 47.4%. Both are below average for guards in the NBA. Overall his 13.9 points per game look good but it took him 13 attempts per game to get there. Not very efficient. The Hornets’ record reflected this with the team going 7-13 when Vasquez attempted 16 or more shots. Change the number to 14 or more shots and the record drops to 11-25. Compare that to a record of 5-7 when he attempts his average of 13 shots per game. However the sweet spot seems to be between 9 and 10 attempts per game. The Hornets went 7-5 in those games.

Turnovers
Vasquez finished the season with a very good assist to turnover ratio of 3.48 which ranked him 16th in the league. But he also set the Hornets team record for turnovers in a season and ranked 7th worst in the NBA with 247. Basketball-reference.com says he turns the ball over 18.6 possessions per 100 plays. NBA.com ranks him 307th best at keeping the ball which is not exactly a compliment.

The Defense
Vasquez is limited by his athleticism. While he often has the height advantage, he lacks to the speed to stick with quick point guards defensively. While the Hornets defense as a whole was incredibly disappointing this year, Vasquez struggled to rotate defensively and often was swallowed up by screens when opponents ran the pick and roll.
As a team the Hornets were worse defensively with Vasquez on the court allowing 112.7 points per 100 possession compared to 108.6 with him on the bench. Overall, according to Synergy Sports, Vasquez gave up 0.89 ppp which ranks 258th in the league. In isolation he was even worse, allowing 0.93 ppp. Against pick and roll ball handlers he fared slightly better at 0.85, but still ranked 172th.
LINK: Season in Review: Greivis Vasquez | New Orleans Pelicans | BourbonStreetShots.com
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Old 12-09-2013, 08:23 PM   #11 (permalink)
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From these descriptions, he is an overgrown, slower Calderon?

I guess with Buycks and Stone behind him, he's going to get plenty of time to show he can help a team when/if Lowry goes. I guess one question is whether he could start for many teams out there. Then he becomes another trade chip.

Mandatory Vasquez mix, which actually isn't all that impressive.

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Old 12-09-2013, 08:29 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I remmeber watching some Maryland games and liked his game a lot. I was hoping we would draft him in the second round, should be a good back up point guard going forward
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Old 12-09-2013, 08:58 PM   #13 (permalink)
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If he doesn't get traded, then he will be a good backup PG moving forward
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Old 12-09-2013, 09:00 PM   #14 (permalink)
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From these descriptions, he is an overgrown, slower Calderon?
It's kind of like saying that Rudy Gay is a taller Ray Allen, I think. Greivis is a poor shooter, Calderon is a great one. Greivis tends to score in similar spots as DeRozan, Calderon stretches the floor. Greivis has shooting guard size which helps him inside and on the boards, Calderon is more talented, a better point guard, better passer.
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Old 12-09-2013, 09:09 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Vasquez was basically a starting backup point guard that got outplayed by isiah thomas constantly..... we got a solid backup pg that won't challenge for much unless Lowry goes and brings back a less talented bench pg (if any)
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Vasquez is comparable to Caldy if you're ranking them. Not super similar players but a similar caliber player. If Calderon was starting over Lowry at one point, we might have another PG controversy.
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Old 12-09-2013, 09:55 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Well, I would take Calderon over Vasquez on my team (and I'd see it as an easy decision). I think Calderon is a legit starting point guard. If Calderon is my worst starter, I probably have a playoff team. If Vasquez is my starter, then nearly every team I'll meet will have a better point guard.
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Old 12-09-2013, 09:57 PM   #18 (permalink)
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So he is basically a Calderon without a shot?
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So he is basically a Calderon without a shot?
He is nothing like Calderon, but sure.
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Old 12-09-2013, 10:02 PM   #20 (permalink)
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So he is basically a Calderon without a shot?
Calderon is a shooter who doesn't score.
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