Grange: Wiggins trade sets stage for homecoming
Old 08-07-2014, 05:02 PM   #1 (permalink)
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No one from the organization can or will talk about the potential impact of Wiggins and fellow Toronto-born No.1-overall pick Anthony Bennett being traded to the Minnesota Timberwolves in a deal that will send Kevin Love to the Cleveland Cavaliers. Even Drake wouldn’t want to pay those fines.

But there is no doubt that everyone from MLSE president Tim Leiweke to Raptors general manager Masai Ujiri to Drake himself heard the news that the deal will be completed later this month—first reported by Yahoo! Sports’ Adrian Wojnarowski—and gathered for some communal chest bumping.

Who knows what getting Wiggins out of Cleveland would have been like after he’d been to the NBA mountaintop alongside LeBron James?

Getting Wiggins out of Minnesota first chance? Easy as pie.
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There are NBA markets that are plagued with self-doubt; that look at all the sunny, happy, glamourous places and question their place in the basketball universe.

There is Utah and Memphis and Milwaukee and, yes, there is Toronto, even though everyone here knows that it’s just good old fashioned ‘Merican ignorance that keeps our condominium construction site with pretty girls from being more widely known as an NBA ‘it’ spot. Fixing that is Drake’s job.

And then there is Minnesota.

When NBA free agents come up with their list of things they’re looking for as a potential destination, the Timberwolves have none of them.
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Now the Raptors get the best of all worlds. Ujiri/Drake/Leiweke can go about the business of building a winning basketball team while Wiggins goes through his growing pains in a cold place far from home before finally making a triumphant return—not as a saviour, but as the final ingredient in a championship contending maple syrup-flavoured pie.

For this, LeBron, Canada thanks you.
Love deal sets stage for Wiggins' homecoming - Sportsnet.ca
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Old 08-07-2014, 05:14 PM   #2 (permalink)
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If I was a Timberwolves fan I would be swearing up down and sideways at Grange after this read.

As a Raptor fan, way too soon. Too much could happen. Maybe wolves play well... maybe he gets dealt to LA in year 4...
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If I was a Timberwolves fan I would be swearing up down and sideways at Grange after this read.

As a Raptor fan, way too soon. Too much could happen. Maybe wolves play well... maybe he gets dealt to LA in year 4...
LA won't trade for him if he doesn't agree to sign an extension. But I agree, this being positive he's coming here as soon as he can is too soon. What if he's a disappointment too? What if he becomes injury prone etc....like you said too much can happen.
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a Canadian kid with incredible talent/potential, a chip on his shoulder/out to prove how much Cleveland was wrong to deal him

yup...this is going to be fun to watch
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Old 08-07-2014, 07:08 PM   #5 (permalink)
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So much can happen. Too early and premature.
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Old 08-07-2014, 07:56 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Yes it's too early, but let's be honest, we probably all think it'll be easier to pry him away from the Wolves than the Caveatles, yes he could be traded, yes he could not pan out, but it's more fun for once (with this franchise) dreaming a dream that may actually happen. Not Durrant was a Raptor fan so he may come here, not Lebron is close with Leiweke so he may come here, not even we're building a winning team circa 2004, so Vince will stay; this is actually a Toronto kid who's proud to be Canadian who grew up wanting to play for the Raptors, who could be a superstar and who legitimately may come here. I do agree Grange could have put the brakes on a little and instead of saying he's coming here just point out the positives;

1) He'll get to develop real quick now that he's the man in Minny

2) He has even more incentive to prove he's deserving of the #1 pick

3) He'll actually get some shots up (no Bron, Irving or Waiters)

4) Last time I checked Ricky Rubio was one of the best passers in the league, I can only imagine the alley-oops that are going to be thrown down in Minny

5)Team Canada is already competing ok against Euro competition (ie recent Euro tour without the big guns) now imagine the chemistry Wiggins and Bennett can develop, which will hopefully transfer over to the national team

6) Don't sleep on Anthony Bennett, I think he will really get a chance to show what he can do and now you've given him a chip on his shoulder and oh yeah, he's from Toronto too (could they both be coming home?? )

7) No national spotlight, no pressure to win right now, fewer problems to hinder development.

Although it would have been nice to be tutored by Lebron, I have no hard feelings, I too say thanks Lebron.
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Old 08-07-2014, 08:04 PM   #7 (permalink)
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If all goes well I would love to see him here, but let's see 2 years from now if he is a franchise player or just a role player. If he is an allstar hell yeah, but if he ends up like Michael Beasley or Derrick Williams so no thanks.
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If all goes well I would love to see him here, but let's see 2 years from now if he is a franchise player or just a role player. If he is an allstar hell yeah, but if he ends up like Michael Beasley or Derrick Williams so no thanks.
Thanks for stating the obvious. lol
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I read this earlier, and this shouldn't have been published. I think it's irresponsible for someone representing the Toronto press to presume that we're a bigger team than Minny. Last time I checked, Minnesota actually made it to their conference finals at one point. We're still the Clippers of the North, and Grange has no right to put down another franchise. Yes, it's obvious, Wiggins is from the Toronto area and would like to play in Toronto. However, it won't matter if he's in Cleveland or Minnesota if he truly wants to play for the Raps. I think we have a lot more to prove before our media should be arrogantly insinuating that we're a bigger draw than any other team.
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Thanks for stating the obvious. lol
Dude, you know how people want him here because it's his hometown and all, before he even played his first NBA game. :cookie:
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I read this earlier, and this shouldn't have been published. I think it's irresponsible for someone representing the Toronto press to presume that we're a bigger team than Minny. Last time I checked, Minnesota actually made it to their conference finals at one point. We're still the Clippers of the North, and Grange has no right to put down another franchise. Yes, it's obvious, Wiggins is from the Toronto area and would like to play in Toronto. However, it won't matter if he's in Cleveland or Minnesota if he truly wants to play for the Raps. I think we have a lot more to prove before our media should be arrogantly insinuating that we're a bigger draw than any other team.
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Yeah, was surprised to see this piece by Grange.
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I read this earlier, and this shouldn't have been published. I think it's irresponsible for someone representing the Toronto press to presume that we're a bigger team than Minny. Last time I checked, Minnesota actually made it to their conference finals at one point. We're still the Clippers of the North, and Grange has no right to put down another franchise. Yes, it's obvious, Wiggins is from the Toronto area and would like to play in Toronto. However, it won't matter if he's in Cleveland or Minnesota if he truly wants to play for the Raps. I think we have a lot more to prove before our media should be arrogantly insinuating that we're a bigger draw than any other team.
Yeah, but We The North.

But seriously.....I think a few things together have made it a bit more likely that he would leave his first team and/or return to Toronto.

- He now has to grow up quickly to the "It's just a business" aspect, possibly making hi a bit less loyal deep down

-He won't be playing with LeBron, shielded and helped up by LeBron

-No one is coming to Minnesota unless he absolutely explodes a s a player. And even then, a handful of cities tend to draw superteams.

-LeBron set a precedent for unabashedly returning home

-He's from Toronto, his roots tend to run deep and he's pretty open about it. I also dare say Toronto has elevated it's credibility in many ways and only needs to keep up that feeling.
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This is such a dumb article. Its like 4 years away from anything actually happening
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I agree that Toronto's credibility has risen. It's like night and day in a lot of ways. This could be a team, like in San Antonio, where players want to stay. Log mentioned in the thread about basketball without borders, how a genuinely good person as a gm can make this team look very attractive. I think Grange goes way too far drooling over possibilities way off in the future when a lot of good things are being done in the present to solidify success. They don't need to seem desperate to land a Wiggins, before he has even proven anything yet. Yes, the move away from a potential championship team is a bit of a lucky break that allows a certain scenario to remain much more alive. But so what really? I'm getting a bit lost on how so much of sports is now about drama off the court, which heightens thanks to so much attention to possible moves far into the future. Our minds end up filled with stuff that is remote from real games and accomplishments on the court.
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Realistically he should have mentioned us also picking up Durant in 2016.
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Realistically he should have mentioned us also picking up Durant in 2016.
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If LeBron starts the trend of returning to your home to win it all, and a guy like KD does the same, wiggins you coming home baby!
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Are these guys just trawling RealGM for stories now?

Who knows what will happen. Kevin Love has probably hated having to be on the Timberwolves his whole career but he stuck with them instead of forcing a trade earlier, and now he gets to play with the best player on the planet for the rest of his career. Four years from now the Timberwolves could be the next OKC. As for Rubio, he's going to get less than Kyle and I honestly wouldn't be surprised if he took less than what was on the table in the NBA to go back to Europe and be the best player in the ACB.
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I read this earlier, and this shouldn't have been published. I think it's irresponsible for someone representing the Toronto press to presume that we're a bigger team than Minny. Last time I checked, Minnesota actually made it to their conference finals at one point. We're still the Clippers of the North, and Grange has no right to put down another franchise. Yes, it's obvious, Wiggins is from the Toronto area and would like to play in Toronto. However, it won't matter if he's in Cleveland or Minnesota if he truly wants to play for the Raps. I think we have a lot more to prove before our media should be arrogantly insinuating that we're a bigger draw than any other team.
Testify.

The funny part... Minny probably ends up a better team in 5 years than CLE... so maybe it doesnt help. Maybe minny just does a celtics and they are up and coming. Plenty of time to try and rebuild and show promise.

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The funny part... Minny probably ends up a better team in 5 years than CLE... so maybe it doesnt help. Maybe minny just does a celtics and they are up and coming. Plenty of time to try and rebuild and show promise.
It's Minnesota and it's in the WC........better? We'll see.
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