Grange: So far, so good for Raptors
Old 11-14-2009, 01:31 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Smile Grange: So far, so good for Raptors

This is from before last night's game, but still worth reading.

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Two weeks in and 10 per cent of their schedule played, I think it’s fair to conclude that the Raptors season to this point has been a success.

This all depends on expectations going in, naturally.

But 4-4 through eight games, including a 3-1 mark at home has to be deemed encouraging given the task of integrating all the new faces. And keep in mind my pre-season prediction was, I think, 37 wins?

Looking ahead, even the most optimistic projection would be to see the Raptors go 4-7 in their next 11. That means 1-3 on this trip with the most likely win coming tonight against the Clips – though I see the potential for a motivated Baron Davis shredding these guys. I’ll be at the Suns game Sunday night and the Raptors have never beaten Nash in the desert and given they’re playing the same style but just not quite as well, I’m not sure it’s going to happen now. The Nuggets? Not likely, not in the thin air and Kenyon matches up pretty well with Bosh. And while I think Utah is vulnerable, not so on the second night of a back-to-back at the end of a week-long trip.

Can Toronto get two of their next three at home? They’d have to get Indiana and then one each from either Miami or Orlando. Let’s say they get Indiana and Miami – I can’t see the Heat front court managing both Bosh and Bargnani. That’s three wins. Then they get Charlotte, which they would need to take before going to Boston and hosting the Suns.

Does 8-11 by December 1st sound about right?

Amazingly the worst part of their schedule is over by then. They only have one long west coast trip left and it’s not until March, by which time Sacramento and Golden State may have folded.

It creates a scenario where the Raptors can build some momentum.

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Old 11-14-2009, 01:37 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Grange is a moron. This is the guy that said Belinelli would basically be a garbage time player. He does have a point about the season to date, but that doesn't exactly take a genius.
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Grange is a moron. This is the guy that said Belinelli would basically be a garbage time player. He does have a point about the season to date, but that doesn't exactly take a genius.
agreed...
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Old 11-14-2009, 02:13 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I beg to differ - Grange is anything but a moron. True, he could be off sometimes (all of us here have been off once in a blue moon, no? ), but overall, he is one of the best in business in Canada when it comes to NBA.

I am a big fan.
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Old 11-14-2009, 02:15 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I beg to differ - Grange is anything but a moron. True, he could be off sometimes (all of us here have been off once in a blue moon, no? ), but overall, he is one of the best in business in Canada when it comes to NBA.

I am a big fan.
The guy is an idiot straight up! He's worse then D. Smith and is a slight notch ahead of Fesfuck, and thats saying a hell of alot.
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Old 11-14-2009, 02:19 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I actually like all our guys. Like Mike says, we all have our moments, but I enjoy reading what they write even if I don't always agree. And if all else fails, it gives us something to talk about.
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The guy is an idiot straight up! He's worse then D. Smith and is a slight notch ahead of Fesfuck, and thats saying a hell of alot.
Against my better judgment, I will bite: give me a quote from Grange you consider "idiotic straight up".
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Old 11-14-2009, 02:31 PM   #8 (permalink)
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While I am waiting, let me finish the quote Acie started from Grange's blog:

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It creates a scenario where the Raptors can build some momentum.

They’ll need to improve defensively to do it. I’ve been bouncing around doing some other things lately, but a couple of moments from the debacle in San Antonio stick out.

One play late in the first half Matt Bonner set a simple little cross-screen for Richard Jefferson who set Antoine Wright up nicely and bounced across the lane wide open for a jumper, leaving Wright and Bargnani to simply look at each other. Next play, same play, only this time Bonner pops out to the elbow and drains a wide-open jumper. Again, Wright and Bargnani: clueless.

This is not a coaching issue or a talent issue. A simple screen away for a cutter to the ball is about as basic as it gets at any level of basketball. And if two veterans – one who is in his fourth season here and another (Wright) who is supposed to be your top defensive player – can’t sort that out on consecutive possessions, you’ve got guys who – to quote Jay Triano –“aren’t actively engaged.”

Obviously they showed against Chicago that they can engage on the defensive end for stretches at least. That’s all they need. Presuming their offence continues to hum – they’re the most efficient offensive team in the NBA right now at 113.3 points per 100 possessions – they don’t have to become a crew of stoppers, they just have to get better than the 113.6 points per 100 their allowing right now, which is 29th in the NBA.

Does it seem reasonable Toronto can become a better defensive club than Minnesota (109.4/5/100)? Golden State (108.1/100) or the Knicks 107.5/100)?

I think so, and getting better than those horrible teams – their combined record is 4-21 – while maintaining something close to their current efficiency on the other end could yield some encouraging results.

The Suns are 8-2 and their offensive-defensive numbers look like this: 110.8/100 on offence while allowing 107.0 on defence. The differential is pretty modest, but it’s enough to win games and something the Raptors need to shoot for even as they shoot the lights out.
Does that sound like an idiot to anyone?
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The only reason the Raps were able to come back last night was because of the defense. This team shows flashes on the defensive end, they really do, we just haven't seen a 48 minute effort yet and that's the issue.

Bellinelli came in and played very good defense last night, very good. He may not be the best straight-up defender but he plays smart, rotates, and uses his body well.
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Old 11-14-2009, 03:25 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Excluding a couple games, Marco has been mainly a garbage time player. He's only averaging 15 MPG, after everyone would say that he'd finally get real playing time after he got none in GS (he averaged 21 MPG last year).
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The guy is an idiot straight up! He's worse then D. Smith and is a slight notch ahead of Fesfuck, and thats saying a hell of alot.
Why.

Tell me why you're so qualified to make such a distinct comment about 3 men who have worked for years to get where they are.
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Why.

Tell me why you're so qualified to make such a distinct comment about 3 men who have worked for years to get where they are.
Because i read and form an opinion, just like most here call Hollinger every name in the book everytime anything he says is posted here. You wanna like certain writers go ahead, and if you don't you're entitled to your opinion.

Maybe i should say Grange is a douchebag imo? Then again, some here would and have complained of the use of imo.
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Old 11-15-2009, 12:37 PM   #13 (permalink)
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well EMO I have issues with... I can handle IMO

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Old 11-15-2009, 01:13 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Excluding a couple games, Marco has been mainly a garbage time player. He's only averaging 15 MPG, after everyone would say that he'd finally get real playing time after he got none in GS (he averaged 21 MPG last year).
Garbage time?


He plays in the 2nd quarter and early 4th quarters, which is far from garbage time. And he'll probably average 20MPG before long. Do you know what garbage time is?

If POB or Banks gets in the game, that's garbage time, when Rasho gets in that's usually garbage time. Garbage time is at the end of the game when the game is out of reach one way or the other. Belinelli is a rotational player and is by far our best scorer off the bench.

The fact that at 22yrs old he averaged 21mpg....i don't know how you see that as a bad thing. At that age, playing 21mpg is nothing to sneeze at considering he was drafted at 21yrs old. And considering he was asked to start 16 games and excelled, averaging 15ppg and shooting very well i don't get what your gripe is. He is shooting 50 fg% and 50 3pt% off the bench and he continues to make an impact he's gonna take minutes away from Jack. Which should be the case.

Besides who knows why they do anything they do in Golden State. Nobody is happy in that circus and many people in and around the NBA were scratching their heads as to why they weren't playing him more there, based on his offence and passing abilities alone.

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This is from before last night's game, but still worth reading.



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Dude, we're so not gonna be 8-11
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Dude, we're so not gonna be 8-11
We could, easily, and I would be all right with that. In fact, a 0.500 record around XMas + gelled team would be a great result.
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We could, easily, and I would be all right with that. In fact, a 0.500 record around XMas + gelled team would be a great result.
I agree, I just don't think well go under 500
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I agree, I just don't think well go under 500
Who'd argue with that?
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