Grange: Raptors should've tanked last year
Old 04-07-2010, 02:33 PM   #1 (permalink)
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This is nothing against DeMar DeRozan exactly. He’s been just as advertised: A very athletic player with limited elite basketball experience who has at time shone in his first NBA season but more often has been kind of meh. He’s no Sonny Weems, in other words. He’s put in a lot of time on his game and will surely become the player he’s destined to be, it’s just yet to be determined what kind of player that is.

But wouldn’t the tone of the discussion right now be a little different if the Raptors had a rookie in the fold who not only was significant, game-changing talent, but quite likely a potential star?

Can we agree on that?

Which brings me to myself. A year ago the Raptors were on a winning streak, one that ended up with them finishing 9-4 in their last 13 games. What a waste.

“Presuming the Raptors scouting staff would never get this wrong, they should get a better player picking 5th than 9th, or 8th than 9th, for that matter. And I guess my view is that if you're going to miss the playoffs or just make them and get crushed in the first round, better to pick fifth than 13th, or 16th. But hey, easy for me to say.”

And that was just more of a theme I began musing on as far back as January (2009), when it was pretty clear the Raptors best case was .500 record and a seventh or eighth seed – sound familiar?

Had the Raptors traded Jermaine O’Neal’s contract for cap space and really started tanking they could easily had a chance to pick as high as fourth last summer.

Does anyone think the Raptors wouldn’t be a more interesting team with Evans or Rubio or Steph Curry in the fold?

That’s the real problem with this franchise right now. Even if Bosh comes back, is there a lot of room for optimism? If he leaves there’s less.

The Raptors have been on a treadmill – just outside the playoffs or just in, middling draft positions -- for three straight years despite some valiant attempts to get off it, and several more before that if you exclude 2006-07. Now more and more it appears they’re going to be kicked off it and quite rudely.

Anyone know how the class of 2011 is looking?
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Old 04-07-2010, 02:44 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Curry, Evans or even perhaps Rubio would have looked GREAT in a Raps uni.....
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Old 04-07-2010, 02:48 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I have to agree, for the most part.. I didn't understand what they thought they were achieving by going 9-4 or whatever down the stretch last year... seemed like a very foolish thing to do... however, the draft and analyzing a players potential is always a crapshoot anyway.. what if the Raps ended up with the 5th pick and still drafted Demar? Who knows, could've been a likely scenario.
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Old 04-07-2010, 02:48 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I've always been split on the idea of purposely tanking. Strictly from a roster perspective it is better, but I also think the team has an obligation to win for fans who pay money to watch the games. As a pretty young team it was probably also a good idea to help build a winning attitude among the players. But yeah.. a higher pick would have been nice.
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Old 04-07-2010, 02:49 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Like I said before the draft, Tyreke Evans would be the answer for Raptor's need for a star wing player. Great Handle and gets to the rim and free throw line. People say his a point guard, but the guy has the height, wing span, and strength to be a great shooting guard. Grange is right, the Raptors should have tanked with some great player wing players early in the draft (Harden, Curry, Tyreke Evans)
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Old 04-07-2010, 03:27 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Meh. I don't like the idea of tanking unless your getting a LBJ type player. I bet we played like that to show players in the FA(hedo) that we can be a good team. Sadly we attracted the wrong FA xD
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Old 04-07-2010, 03:54 PM   #7 (permalink)
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It is all good cuz derzon and weems will be the next lebron and kobe..
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Old 04-07-2010, 03:55 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Old 04-07-2010, 04:05 PM   #9 (permalink)
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It is all good cuz derzon and weems will be the next lebron and kobe..
Derozan will be the next Trevor Ariza.
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Old 04-07-2010, 04:08 PM   #10 (permalink)
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One of my hope if Bosh gets traded is that the Raptors can work out a trade with the timberwolves for the rights to Rubio...

He clearly does not want to be there and a game changing point guard makes mediocre talent look much more impressive (See: Steve Nash). The chances of Bosh agreeing to go to Minnesota are probably as likely as him going to Europe and playing for a second division team in Bulgaria, but I can still dream, right?
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Old 04-07-2010, 04:16 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Under the current CBa, teams have almost an obligation to tank
tanking is a strategic decision that trades pointless wins now for more wins later
almost certainly, tanking yields more wins over a five year period, than winning pointless games in a dead season
the object of the game is winning a title, not winning as many games as possible every season
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Old 04-07-2010, 05:34 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Under the current CBa, teams have almost an obligation to tank
tanking is a strategic decision that trades pointless wins now for more wins later
almost certainly, tanking yields more wins over a five year period, than winning pointless games in a dead season
the object of the game is winning a title, not winning as many games as possible every season
agreed. well put.

on a side note, I'm sick of hearing what Colangelo should have done... fuck it, I wanna hear colangelo's plan for the future and then we can decide if his vision fits... but, proposing a future plan to a bunch of door knobs who don't know basketball for shit doesn't give me a lot of hope that MLSE will make the right move..
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Old 04-08-2010, 02:50 AM   #13 (permalink)
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WTF, DeRozan is the future of the NBA.
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