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Old 07-02-2009, 01:18 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Grange: Kleiza willing to wait for Raptors to get ducks in a row

Grange filed a blog update today without much by way of juicy breaking news, but a bit of analysis on some of the rumours that are out there.


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As expected, he says the Raptors are pretty much waiting on Marion right now before exploring other options (David Lee, primarily, it seems).



Not sure who else is in the mix for Kleiza, but when I reached his agent, Bill Duffy, by text, he said simply: “There’s time,” which suggested to me that he’s willing to wait until the Raptors get their ducks in a row.

Of course he only gets here if the Raptors sign Marion or sign-and-trade him. The only insight I have into that is that talks between Dan Fegan, Marion’s agent, and the Raptors have been “positive” whatever that means.

Which brings us to David Lee, whose name surfaced in connection with Toronto last night. He’s a restricted free agent who would require a heavy offer sheet – five years, $50-million (all currency U.S.) – to pry away from the Knicks. As we all know, the only way the Raptors can do that deal is if Marion goes away and Lee becomes the Raptors primary target.

There’s not much to not like about Lee, as his 65 double-doubles would attest. He’d be an instant crowd favourite at the ACC and a nice hedge if Bosh leaves or is traded in the short or medium term. And if you’re going to throw $50-million at a guy, probably better to do it when he’s 26 than when he’s 30 (Turkoglu), but the same question remains: does adding David Lee make you better if it means giving up Delfino, Parker, Marion and potentially Kleiza?

One other note, you can stop shopping around for a good back-up point guard the Raptors might get for the bi-annual exception. If the Raptors sign Marion, Delfino and Kleiza they’ll be nudging the luxury tax and won’t be using the bi-annual. If they don’t sign Marion and Delfino they’ll be under the cap and won’t have access to the exceptions. I got 99 problems but a Smitch ain't one.
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Old 07-02-2009, 01:21 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Nice. I want Kleiza, he seems to like TO and that's the only reason he would wait. I hope we can get him here
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We can't have Lee and Bosh right?

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he seems to like TO and that's the only reason he would wait.
Where does it say that???
I would like him here too but ^^^??
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Where does it say that???
I would like him here too but ^^^??
It doesn't say that but when a guy is willing to wait a while to get an offer from a team it sorta means he likes the city and wants to play there
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Old 07-02-2009, 02:02 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I think its a very good chance we get Kleiza. Denver has four players making 10 million plus (Anthony, Billups, Nene, and Kenyon Martin). This off-season their top priority is to sign the Birdman. Apparently Nuggets director of basketball operations Mark Warkentien flew to LA to offer Anderon the full mid-level:

"I think it's fair to say that both sides are motivated," Nuggets director of basketball operations Mark Warkentien said Wednesday afternoon. "That's why we're in L.A. and meeting today."

Warkentien is currently in Los Angeles meeting with Andersen's representatives, notably Denver-based attorney Mark Bryant and agent Steve Heumann of the L.A.-based Creative Arts Agency.

Bryant said the goal is to try to get Andersen a five-year deal around the mid-level exception (in the $5 million range annually)."

Nuggets in L.A. to get Birdman back in Denver - The Denver Post


The Nuggets have over 65 million in guaranteed salaries for 2009-2010, if they sign Anderson, that pushes them to the 70 million mark. They still have to sign Ty Lawson and make a decision with Dahntay Jones. I say they let Kleiza walk.
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I think its a very good chance we get Kleiza. Denver has four players making 10 million plus (Anthony, Billups, Nene, and Kenyon Martin). This off-season their top priority is to sign the Birdman. Apparently Nuggets director of basketball operations Mark Warkentien flew to LA to offer Anderon the full mid-level:

"I think it's fair to say that both sides are motivated," Nuggets director of basketball operations Mark Warkentien said Wednesday afternoon. "That's why we're in L.A. and meeting today."

Warkentien is currently in Los Angeles meeting with Andersen's representatives, notably Denver-based attorney Mark Bryant and agent Steve Heumann of the L.A.-based Creative Arts Agency.

Bryant said the goal is to try to get Andersen a five-year deal around the mid-level exception (in the $5 million range annually)."

Nuggets in L.A. to get Birdman back in Denver - The Denver Post


The Nuggets have over 65 million in guaranteed salaries for 2009-2010, if they sign Anderson, that pushes them to the 70 million mark. They still have to sign Ty Lawson and make a decision with Dahntay Jones. I say they let Kleiza walk.
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Old 07-02-2009, 02:23 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Good number @ 4million per year. The guy is only 24 years old with no history of injury. He missed a total of 6 games the last 3 seasons. He is entering his prime, lock him for 5 or 6 years. He can give you starter minutes or consistent bench production.
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It doesn't say that but when a guy is willing to wait a while to get an offer from a team it sorta means he likes the city and wants to play there
its about money Gurk.
money.
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If we offer him more than 3 years its a bad move. Hes not that good to warrant a 4 year deal. Most bench guys arent.
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If we offer him more than 3 years its a bad move. Hes not that good to warrant a 4 year deal. Most bench guys arent.
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What? Hes a 9 ppg 7th/8th man who gets exposed on defence when he plays too many minutes and goes through huge slumps where he takes too many 3s and shoots 20% for 10 games at a time. He shouldnt be signed for more than 3 years because its been proven that like 90+% of bench players that sign for 4 or 5 yrs, after a year or two their contracts hurt their teams and the fans want to kill them. See Walton, Luke, and Madsen, Mark. What a joke those were
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What? Hes a 9 ppg 7th/8th man who gets exposed on defence when he plays too many minutes and goes through huge slumps where he takes too many 3s and shoots 20% for 10 games at a time. He shouldnt be signed for more than 3 years because its been proven that like 90+% of bench players that sign for 4 or 5 yrs, after a year or two their contracts hurt their teams and the fans want to kill them. See Walton, Luke, and Madsen, Mark. What a joke those were
dude, he have average 17,1pts in 21 game (08/09 season) when he played 25+ minute.

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4yrs/16Mil (4mil/yr from MLE)
i likeyyy... and its reasonable too...i wouldn't mind uping it to 4.5 per

potential 2's and 3's

delfino/derozan/douby
marion/ariza or another FA along with potentially kleiza?

looks like the wing positions got seriously upgraded from the end of the season roster IMO

parker/kapono/graham....
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As the biggest-name free agent quickly get snapped up, the market for the next tier – players such as the Nuggets Linas Kleiza and Anthony Carter – has started to become clearer.

Kleiza, a forward, and Carter, a guard, have teams interested in their services, according to reports around the league.

At the moment, two teams interested in Kleiza are the Cleveland Cavaliers and Toronto Raptors. Kleiza is a restricted free agent, so any team that signs him to an offer sheet has to wait and see if the Nuggets match the offer. The Nuggets have already given him a qualifying offer of $2.7 million.

Kleiza didn’t play well for the most part last season, but still has a high ceiling of potential. At 6-8, 245, he’s a big forward that can hit the 3-point shot, runs the court well, can slash to the basket and is a good rebounder. That skill set, and the belief that last season could just have been an anomaly brought on by a number of factors, has teams interested in the young forward.

Playing time is of particular interest to Kleiza, who saw his time dwindle as last season wore on. If he can find a place for the right money and an opportunity to get on the court more often, it would be an ideal situation for him.

As an unrestricted free agent, Carter is free to take the best offer he receives. Nuggets coach George Karl is fond of Carter, who is an energy guy that plays solid defense and can run an offense. But that might not be enough. The Nuggets aren’t going to spend much to keep him; a three, four or five-year contract is out.

But Carter may get that multi-year deal elsewhere. The Indiana Pacers have a level of interest in the guard, and are keeping him on a short list of players they are targeting. Carter averaged 5.3 points and 4.7 assists in 22.9 minutes last season.

Both Kleiza and Carter are clients of agent Bill Duffy, who has not returned messages recently seeking comment.
http://blogs.denverpost.com/nuggets/...ng-into-focus/

I hope Raptors sign Kleiza.
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Hmm this is first time I've heard of Carter on the market.
He should have numerous teams targeting him since he had always been a reliable backup for his entire career.

Signing Carter would solve our PG dilemma.
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I hope Raptors sign Kleiza.
Cleveland wants Kleiza and may be willing to give him the full MLE to get him. He's one of the only big fish remaing once Hedo goes to Prtland.
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He is not worth the full MLE, period. Give him 3 yrs/14 mil.
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He is not worth the full MLE, period. Give him 3 yrs/14 mil.
Why he is not worth the full MLE, period? please give me arguments.
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