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Old 02-15-2014, 09:14 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Not sure why everyone is giving DeRozan an A.

I only gave him a B+ because I felt that his defense is still below average. I like that he is stepping up in terms of rebounding and assists. But imo, as long as he is a one-way player, I can't give him an A.
Not sure why everyone didn't give vasquez an F for his defense.
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Old 02-15-2014, 09:25 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Old 02-15-2014, 10:07 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Lowry: A+
Derozan: A-
Patterson: B+
Ross: B+
Valanciunas: B-
Salmons: B+
Vasquez: D+
Amir: C-
Hayes: C
PsychoT: B-
Novak: C
Fields: N/A (D+)
Daye: N/A
Buycks: N/A
Stone: N/A

Ujiri: A
Casey: B-
Nick Nurse: B+
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Old 02-15-2014, 11:29 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Not sure why everyone is giving DeRozan an A.

I only gave him a B+ because I felt that his defense is still below average. I like that he is stepping up in terms of rebounding and assists. But imo, as long as he is a one-way player, I can't give him an A.
I guess a lot of people didn't expect much from him, so his progress was nice surprise. I'm with you on his defense, but even that has improved and he's doing a lot of things this year I didn't think him capable of doing. I think it's a bit harsh to call him a one way player at this point.
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Old 02-16-2014, 05:30 AM   #25 (permalink)
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lol at "moremilk" grading

all the rest voted pretty much the same and matches my opinion as well.
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Old 02-16-2014, 09:25 AM   #26 (permalink)
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Ok after 52 games we have reached the All-star weekend with the Raptors standing with a 28-24 record and are 3rd in the EC. What grade do you give everyone?


Here are mine:

Lowry: A+
Derozan: A
Patterson: A-
Ross: B
Valanciunas: B-
Salmons: B
Vasquez: C-
Amir: C
Hayes: B
PsychoT: B-
Novak: C
Fields: N/A
Daye: N/A
Buycks: N/A
Stone: N/A

Ujiri: A
Casey: B+
Wow I agree with those grades. No need to repost
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Old 02-16-2014, 10:49 AM   #27 (permalink)
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Lowry: A
Derozan: A
Patterson: B
Ross: B
Valanciunas: C
Salmons: B
Vasquez: D
Amir: B
Hayes: C
PsychoT: B
Novak: C
Fields: D
Daye: D
Buycks: D
Stone: D

Ujiri: B
Casey: A
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Old 02-16-2014, 03:01 PM   #28 (permalink)
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Lowry: A
Derozan: A
Patterson: B
Ross: B
Valanciunas: C
Salmons: B
Vasquez: D
Amir: B
Hayes: C
PsychoT: B
Novak: C
Fields: D
Daye: D
Buycks: D
Stone: D

Ujiri: B
Casey: A
Amir get's the same grade as Patterson and Ross....that generous.

And how in the world does Ujiri only get a B?
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Old 02-16-2014, 03:16 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Lowry A
I am actually very suprised he has risen to this level. He has been quite constant and is very gritty with ability to also take matters in his own hand. I dont give him the + because I believe he still needs to get better at making other better. E.g. Amir and JVal would be better if they had a PG that would make them better.

DD A-
He has been great on offense. Sometimes still takes too many jumpers, but has also gotten better at passing.

Ross B
Gotten better at what he is good at, but still too inconsistent.

Amir B
Was pretty good earlier, but lately has sucked. He needs new ankles and a PG that he can play P'n'R with.

JVal B
He has been pretty consistent. Doesnt have the offensive skills yet to be top center, but he is learning and has been decent over all.

PPat A
Well the expectations for me werent really high as I didnt have any idea who he was when we got him. But he has been great.

Salmons B+
I thought he was just a waste of cap space, but actually he has been very dependable stabilizing force of the bench who can actually get something out of offense when GV is struggling.

GV C
From what I understood early he was supposed to be the good piece coming out of that trade. Well he hasnt been. He has shown some flashes of being able to score, but nothing in terms of being able to run offense. Well very early he had some good effort to get bigs involved, but then he has had to play with Hayes and PPat who arent really P'n'R sort of bigs.

Psycho-T B
I think he has been pretty good for the role we need him to play overall. Injury has slowed him down and for some inexplicable reason he isnt getting much PT still as Hayes gets on the floor in every game

Hayes B
In some regard positive suprise defensively, but still I dont think he should have more than Aron Gray role in this team (i.e. come defend bigs, when our other bigs are in foul trouble)

Novak C
He has brought some life to this team in couple of games, but outside that he is waste of cap space. I dont think he actually has even shot that well and when he isnt shooting, he is useles in offense and a liability in defense.

Others N/A

Ujiri: A+
The results speak for him. Making a bad team into decent one with two trades and then having the mind to stay put while we are playing well.
Casey: B+
Good, the team is playing well. Bad, his rotations and X's and O's
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Old 02-16-2014, 06:41 PM   #30 (permalink)
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Lowry: A+
Derozan: B
Patterson: A-
Ross: B-
Valanciunas: B-
Salmons: C+
Vasquez: D
Amir: B-
Hayes: B-
PsychoT: C+
Novak: C-
Fields: F- - - - - - - - - U
Daye: N/A
Buycks: N/A
Stone: N/A

Ujiri: B
Casey: C+
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Old 02-16-2014, 09:33 PM   #31 (permalink)
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lol at "moremilk" grading

all the rest voted pretty much the same and matches my opinion as well.
The only grade that's different than most is JV's, I am quite disappointed with his progress. He's, in fact, almost regressed, on a per minute basis, most stats outside rebounding are down vs his rookie year. I guess most people here didn't expect him to improve much, hence all the Bs he got pretty much across the board ....
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Old 02-16-2014, 09:45 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Lowry: A+
Derozan: A-
Patterson: A
Ross: B
Valanciunas: B-
Salmons: B-
Vasquez: C-
Amir: B-
Hayes: C
PsychoT: B+
Novak: C
Fields: F
Daye: F
Buycks: D
Stone: D

Ujiri: A
Casey: B-

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Old 02-16-2014, 10:15 PM   #33 (permalink)
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The only grade that's different than most is JV's, I am quite disappointed with his progress. He's, in fact, almost regressed, on a per minute basis, most stats outside rebounding are down vs his rookie year. I guess most people here didn't expect him to improve much, hence all the Bs he got pretty much across the board ....
His understanding on the defensive end is better than last year, and his rebounding has improved. I didn't expect his offensive numbers to go up much because he's not at the top of the pecking order on offence. Give him another summer or two and his offence will take off, and we'll be forced to give him more usage, which will ultimately make us a better team.

Coach Hollins will do wonders for JVs game. The day isn't far away.
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Old 02-16-2014, 10:19 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Coach Hollins will do wonders for JVs game. The day isn't far away.
Casey will be signed to an extension imo
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Old 02-17-2014, 11:37 AM   #35 (permalink)
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Amir get's the same grade as Patterson and Ross....that generous.

And how in the world does Ujiri only get a B?
Amir play injured and deserves more than C
Ujiri want to trade Lowry

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Amir play injured and deserves more than C
Ujiri want to trade Lowry
How long has Amir been hurt? I'm sure you know this

And Ujiri "open" to trading Lowry. Does he really want to, we have no idea. Can't grade a GM for what he wants to possibly do, only on what he has already done. And he's made two moves, one that helps in the future and the other that helps both in the future with regards to the cap and gave us a bench currently. How MU doesn't get an A for those two moves in his first few months is beyond me.
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Old 02-17-2014, 11:54 AM   #37 (permalink)
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How long has Amir been hurt? I'm sure you know this

And Ujiri "open" to trading Lowry. Does he really want to, we have no idea. Can't grade a GM for what he wants to possibly do, only on what he has already done. And he's made two moves, one that helps in the future and the other that helps both in the future with regards to the cap and gave us a bench currently. How MU doesn't get an A for those two moves in his first few months is beyond me.
Ujiri wanted to

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Old 02-17-2014, 11:59 AM   #38 (permalink)
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Ujiri wanted to
Says who? I never had any feeling from him that he wanted to tank when he spoke leading into the season and after it started.
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Old 02-17-2014, 12:16 PM   #39 (permalink)
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Says who? I never had any feeling from him that he wanted to tank when he spoke leading into the season and after it started.
Lowry being shopped, interest from NY BKN GSW
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Old 02-17-2014, 12:18 PM   #40 (permalink)
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That doesn't say to me that he was looking to tank whatsoever. Again, nothing he's ever said or done has ever indicated he is tanking type.
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