Game Thread: Toronto Raptors 84 - Boston Celtics 112 (F) - Page 2
Old 12-07-2007, 09:56 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Maceo and Dixon IMO were they only ones that could be saved from this game. I still dont understand why Dixon doesnt play more.
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Old 12-07-2007, 10:00 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Maceo and Dixon IMO were they only ones that could be saved from this game. I still dont understand why Dixon doesnt play more.
Must be in Sam's doghouse .... who knows.

Jamrio looked horrible tonight. Outside of those two nice blocks in the first quarter, he did indeed look like a rookie tonight and definitely was intimidated by "The Big 3".
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Well... at least Raps didn't lose by 30 as I predicted... how stupid of me not to trust them...
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Well... at least Raps didn't lose by 30 as I predicted... how stupid of me not to trust them...
They could of easily lost by 60 if they didn't pull their starters with 5 minutes left in the 3rd quarter.

Doesn't matter which way you cut it, that was a pathetic performance and I hope Sam tears them a new one because of the effort. :mad:
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True but like everyone else. The game started going down thanks to joey and Hump with those fouls. Hump 3 fouls in 2 two minutes, you gotta be kidding me. Calderon wasnt bold enough to try to take over the game, and Tj today was his absolute worst version.
Delfino and Parker were distracted and Rasho was playing against Garnett, so he couldnt do a lot. Bad bad game, but the positive note is that the next game with Bargs and Bosh, we will have a lot of energy... I hope.
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They could of easily lost by 60 if they didn't pull their starters with 5 minutes left in the 3rd quarter.

Doesn't matter which way you cut it, that was a pathetic performance and I hope Sam tears them a new one because of the effort. :mad:
I was being facetious... he, he, he... I did predict that they would lose big time and they did but I take no happiness out of it... lets face it at this point they cannot compete with any good team... and December will only get worst for them...
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Old 12-08-2007, 12:04 AM   #27 (permalink)
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and December will only get worst for them...
Yeah, that Western swing where we play 4 games in 5 nights is gonna be super tough.
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Old 12-08-2007, 12:44 AM   #28 (permalink)
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Well merry christmas boston the rapts gave you a gift alittle early.It just shows how badly we need Bosh and Bargs in the line up. I don't understand Mitch how he gave minutes to the guys last nite.You have Calderon just playing 2 more minutes then martin...what is that. 19 t/o's tonight folkes lead by ford with 4 , moon 4 who actually got credited with some of fords out of control passes and dixon with 3.Mitch should have given moon the night off just like he did calderon. These 2 guys have logged alot of minutes lately he did the right thing tonight by resting Calderon and not risking injury why not do the same with moon. I say we decline the rest of our games until Bosh and Bargs come back lol..what the heck we just did tonight against boston. Anyway watching these games we should learn more about our guys. I have come to this conclusion about who should start for the rapts when we are healthy. At point guard its obvious the jose is our guy tj just showed us once against he cannot run a team. Delfino would also start hes good on d and can shoot and drive to the basket. Moon just for his d alone and the ability to block and rebound would start.Bosh with that inside presence which we lack at this moment and andrea with that ability to make shots, open up the floor and to make players change shots in the lane .

Boston 112, Toronto 84

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Toronto 16 24 15 29 84 Final

Boston 27 35 29 21 112




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Name Min FG 3Pt FT Off Reb Ast TO Stl Blk PF Pts
T.J. Ford 21 5-9 0-1 2-2 0 1 3 4 1 0 1 12
A. Parker 27 6-13 1-6 0-0 2 5 1 1 4 0 2 13
J. Moon 34 1-6 0-0 0-0 0 4 1 4 0 2 3 2
J. Graham 33 4-11 0-0 4-4 0 6 1 2 1 0 5 12
R. Nesterovic 10 1-3 0-0 0-0 2 4 0 1 0 0 2 2
C. Delfino 22 3-6 2-3 1-2 0 2 4 2 0 1 1 9
J. Dixon 20 5-10 2-3 0-0 0 0 2 3 1 0 3 12
J. Kapono 18 3-9 1-3 0-0 0 0 0 1 0 0 2 7
J. Calderon 14 2-4 0-0 0-0 0 1 3 0 1 0 1 4
K. Humphries 13 2-4 0-0 0-0 2 4 0 0 0 1 3 4
D. Martin 12 0-3 0-1 0-0 0 1 4 0 0 0 0 0
M. Baston 11 2-2 0-0 3-4 3 4 0 1 1 0 2 7
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Old 12-08-2007, 09:43 AM   #29 (permalink)
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Sorry to burst your bubble, but TJ had nothing to do with last night's performance or lack there of. Jose wasn't fairing much better himself, but when we were down by 40 something points late in the 3rd Sam packed it in and played the guys that rarely see the court to finish the game. (DMart, Juan and Baston)

And rightfully so because there's no other way to put it other than it was flat out disgraceful.
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Doc,I agree you can't point the finger at TJ, my post did not cast blame on him. With Bosh and Bargs both down to injury it gives PT to others on our team, it gives you a look at what we got and it gives players the chance to step up. On Raptors T.V. they say that Jose and Delfino has been the best players since we had Bosh , Bargs and tj out of the line up.I also believe that moon has exceeded everyones expectation. So from I have seen so far I would start Calderon, Delfino, Moon, Bosh and Bargani. It't only my opinion and even though Leo Rautins stated that it would better to continue to start Calderon. Too many differant starting line ups and rotations is not very healthy for our team. Unfortunately players get injuried but we learn and hopefully get better from all this. We now have confirmation that with out Bosh our inside game is non existent, rasho can fill in for short periods of time but can't handle the extended mins. I know this will sound controversial but this is my take with TJ and starting.This guy can play and can score, its very natural for him to take the ball to the basket and score. Why put him into a position where he has to make plays an area where he needs to work on. Last night My buddies were counting and if it was not to a generous scorer TJ would have had 6 t/o.He forces alot where he should just take the basket him self. Thats why i would like to see him come off the bench.Let him be a allen iverson off the bench.
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So from I have seen so far I would start Calderon, Delfino, Moon, Bosh and Bargani.
I would absolutely love that 123, but until Ford goes down again expect Jose to come off the bench.

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It't only my opinion and even though Leo Rautins stated that it would better to continue to start Calderon. Too many differant starting line ups and rotations is not very healthy for our team. Unfortunately players get injuried but we learn and hopefully get better from all this. We now have confirmation that with out Bosh our inside game is non existent, rasho can fill in for short periods of time but can't handle the extended mins. I know this will sound controversial but this is my take with TJ and starting.This guy can play and can score, its very natural for him to take the ball to the basket and score. Why put him into a position where he has to make plays an area where he needs to work on. Last night My buddies were counting and if it was not to a generous scorer TJ would have had 6 t/o.He forces alot where he should just take the basket him self. Thats why i would like to see him come off the bench.Let him be a allen iverson off the bench.
I'm not disagreeing with you in the slightest. Its no secret that T.J. is likely the most talented player offensively on this team, but Jose still remains the better PG hands down. But, in this day of professional sports egoes play a big part of it now, and demoting Ford to the bench for any other reason other than injury is going to disrupt this team more than some would like to believe. That's why I don't believe its going to happen and now that Ford is healthy once again, Jose will go back to his old role of backing T.J. up.
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