GAME THREAD FINAL: New York Knicks 90 - Toronto Raptors 87 - Page 38
Old 02-15-2012, 06:22 PM   #741 (permalink)
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You should play chess, then.

In basketball, unless your opponent is clearly inferior, offence always has an edge over defense. Hence the percentages.
Do you actually know the percentages, it's not as simple as 5/20 - 25%.

The key in all this...Jose had the gameclock visible right in front of him. He should of seen 4...3. IMO you have to step up and play the percentages. Lin's options are far more limited with each second off the clock. The wide open three with two hands in his face a second after he released the ball is a pretty good option as far as I'm concerned if I'm a knicks fan.
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Old 02-15-2012, 06:28 PM   #742 (permalink)
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This thread is still going on! Lets hop over to todays game
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Old 02-15-2012, 07:12 PM   #743 (permalink)
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bjjs is completely right about the last play. Lin started wayyy too late. He started dribbling toward the basket with 5 seconds left on the clock instead of 7, which basically crippled his options. He took the pullup with 2 on the clock. If Jose moved up a bit on him, he would have been forced to his right or left, and would have been either forced in to help where he'd have no passing option due to the clock, or he'd have to take a much more difficult pullup at a higher speed/stop. It was bad defence. But like many have pointed out, if we had a more athletic player on him, Lin would have missed the same shot if he tied to take it IMO.
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Old 02-15-2012, 07:14 PM   #744 (permalink)
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he might have missed it.
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Old 02-15-2012, 07:46 PM   #745 (permalink)
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That was a practice shot. A pullup, walk in to it, rhythm 3 with no resistance is an easy shot for any kind of decent shooter.
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Old 02-15-2012, 09:13 PM   #746 (permalink)
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Thanks Casey for sitting our best defender for final possessions!
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Old 02-15-2012, 10:38 PM   #747 (permalink)
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That was a practice shot. A pullup, walk in to it, rhythm 3 with no resistance is an easy shot for any kind of decent shooter.
Not unless you're name's Robert Horry or Steve Kerr.

At that stage of the game with the win on the line LOTS of players have failed.

Not entirely unrealistic to think that a young kid might have caved under that pressure.

Lesson learned.
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Old 02-16-2012, 12:10 AM   #748 (permalink)
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I've never seen Kerr or Horry shoot off the dribble for the win. Theyre just catch and shoot.

The easiest 3 besides the catch and shoot is the walk up in rhythm 3. If they made him go to his right or left and pull up(think Kobe type shot) it would have been a lot more difficult than dribbling infront and shooting it. But anyway, it happens. It's heat of the moment and I can see why Jose backed off but he should have been more time consciencious and realized Lin only had 3 seconds left on his last dribble and pressured him hard.
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Old 02-16-2012, 12:20 AM   #749 (permalink)
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I've never seen Kerr or Horry shoot off the dribble for the win. Theyre just catch and shoot.

The easiest 3 besides the catch and shoot is the walk up in rhythm 3. If they made him go to his right or left and pull up(think Kobe type shot) it would have been a lot more difficult than dribbling infront and shooting it. But anyway, it happens. It's heat of the moment and I can see why Jose backed off but he should have been more time consciencious and realized Lin only had 3 seconds left on his last dribble and pressured him hard.
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Old 02-16-2012, 11:21 PM   #750 (permalink)
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I think Jose did the right thing at the end in playing back to take away the drive as Lin as most people including I, thought he would do to try to draw a drive and foul with little seconds left..

my guess is Lin prob didn't want to drive though...with his knack of turnovers...driving into the paint with a ton of bodies and increasing the chance of a turnover/offensive foul and giving us the last shot...prob why he was thinking jumper

the only problem was at about 3 seconds left Jose prob could have realized to close out sooner instead of continuing to retreat knowing there would not be enough time for a drive or pull up...

imagine if derozen or Bargs dribbled for 10 secs and then launched a 3 at the end, we prob would have said that was a horrible shot selection. For all you blaming Jose's D, question: if Lin had missed the shot, would you "praise" Jose for baiting him to take a somewhat contested 3? stop being so outcome orientated and make up your mind when the shot is taken, not whether it goes down or not.

to me, Lin took a gutsy shot, considering he hasn't exactly shot the 3 well.
he made it, and for that he deserves
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Old 02-16-2012, 11:44 PM   #751 (permalink)
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:StephenAude has his face on the front cover of the sports section on every newspaper in the country. And you give him 4 feet!?!?!?:StephenA:
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Old 02-17-2012, 01:38 AM   #752 (permalink)
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How about that Jeremy Lin.
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