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Dr. J. Naismith 01-06-2008 11:05 AM

Game Thread: Cleveland Cavaliers 93 - Toronto Raptors 90 (F)
 
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Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Toronto Raptors
16-17, 2nd Central, (Road: 6-11) http://www.ezekielbearsports.com/bbs.../forum_new.gif 17-16, 2nd Atlantic, (Home: 8-7)

WHEN: Sun., Jan. 6, 2007 at 1:00pm ET
WHERE: Air Canada Centre
TV: NBALP, CBC, CBC HD

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Starters
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Calderon, Parker, Moon, Bosh, Bargnani

Bench
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Delfino, Martin, Nesterovic, Humphries, Kapono, Dixon, Graham

Team Injuries/Inactive List
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Baston, Garbajosa, Ford

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Starters
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Hughes, Pavlovic, James, Gooden, Ilgauskas

Bench
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Varejao, Gibson, Brown, Jones, Newble, Snow

Team Injuries/Inactive List
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Jones, Marshall, Simmons

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Bargnani: 25 pts. vs. Pistons / Jose: 15.1 PPG IN LAST 7 GP

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LeBron: 30 PPG IN LAST 2 GP / Zydrunas: 13.6 PPG IN LAST 6 GP

http://www.ezekielbearsports.com/bbs/nba/cavs.gif Key Match-ups http://www.ebsports.net/bbs/sficons/...raptors_sm.gif

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LeBron James vs. Jamario Moon

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Zydrunas Ilgauskas vs. Andrea Bargnani

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(click either player photo to see numbers against one another)

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http://www.ebsports.net/bbs/sficons/...raptors_sm.gif SG http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t...ots/parker.gif vs. http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/.../2005/3722.jpg SG http://www.ezekielbearsports.com/bbs/nba/cavs.gif

http://www.ebsports.net/bbs/sficons/...raptors_sm.gif SF http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t...shots/moon.gif vs. http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/.../2005/3704.jpg SF http://www.ezekielbearsports.com/bbs/nba/cavs.gif

http://www.ebsports.net/bbs/sficons/...raptors_sm.gif PF http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t...shots/bosh.gif vs. http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/.../2005/3602.jpg PF http://www.ezekielbearsports.com/bbs/nba/cavs.gif

http://www.ebsports.net/bbs/sficons/...raptors_sm.gif C http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t...s/bargnani.gif vs. http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/.../2005/3121.jpg C http://www.ezekielbearsports.com/bbs/nba/cavs.gif

YAHOO GAME PREVIEW

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(click on image for preview *NOTE: only available on "Game Day")

Prediction

http://www.ebsports.net/bbs/sficons/...raptors_sm.gif - 97
http://www.ezekielbearsports.com/bbs/nba/cavs.gif - 94

Alright, we'll get back on track this afternoon. One of the Cavs weaknesses is that they aren't as strong when playing on the road as they are at home. Considering this game's in TO, I'm liking our chances this afternoon. :D

Predict and discuss!

Torontosaurus 01-06-2008 01:04 PM

We need this game. Hopefully Bargs will do well and the bench will wake up from hibernation. I say raps take it:
Raps - 91
Cavs - 87

INSIDER 01-06-2008 01:12 PM

i hate cleveland.
we should beat these guys.
raps 122
cle 98

whooooping!

Belsius 01-06-2008 01:34 PM

This game is looking gooood

Belsius 01-06-2008 01:35 PM

Moon flying

Dr. J. Naismith 01-06-2008 02:09 PM

Wow ... fantastic 1st half. Major props to Moon and his defense and the pin point accuracy of Calderon's passing. Fun game to watch so far, but like so many times like we've already seen this season, we cannot collapse. And we know LeBron is bound to wake up sooner or later. :(

INSIDER 01-06-2008 03:16 PM

i fucking hate Lebron James.

JattDogg 01-06-2008 03:35 PM

great fucking coachin sam...great way to switch it up on lebron.

The guy was eating caldy/lebron alive....do something different with parker cuz it just wasnt happening..no just leave him in and let us get eaten.

Thug 01-06-2008 03:35 PM

Someone on our bench made us lose this game. Someone decided to talk trash to LeBron James and this resulted in him exploding.

Dr. J. Naismith 01-06-2008 03:36 PM

WOW ... what can I say other than LeBron is fackin' amazing. :eek:

When the hell is BC going to go out and find us a fuckin' rebounder. The 2nd chances the Cavs got on offensive rebounds alsone was absolutely ridiculous today. :(

Dr. J. Naismith 01-06-2008 03:43 PM

BTW, anyone see at the end of the game those two girls trash talking LeBron? LeBron was walking away while saying to them "Its all your fault". Apparently those two broads were Bosh's girlfriend and cousin. :(

So, blame them for today's loss if your looking for an excuse. :D

Torontosaurus 01-06-2008 03:47 PM

A very disappointing game. We played very well the 1st 3 quarters and then folded in the 4th. :( Some observations:

-I thought Moon and Parker had great games. That said, it was obvious that Parker was having a hard time guarding Lebron. Sam shoulda switched to Moon who I thought did fairly well on him.

-I don't know how or why Damon Jones was open for the 3 so much. You know exactly what he's gonna do every time on the court, he's so one-dimensional. By doubling Lebron so much, we left their shooters open and they killed us for it.

-I thought we should have played Hump more to get more rebounds and set up some shots for Kapono. I can't recall how much time on the court Bargnani had, but he started well and then ended up dead wood.

-Don't know what was said, but who other than Kobe has a game good enough to trash-talk Lebron??

All in all, a thoroughly winnable game for us that we let get away. True, Lebron is a force of nature, but we let the rest of the cavs in the game and they put us away. :(

Torontosaurus 01-06-2008 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. J. Naismith (Post 2714)
BTW, anyone see at the end of the game those two girls trash talking LeBron? LeBron was walking away while saying to them "Its all your fault". Apparently those two broads were Bosh's girlfriend and cousin. :(

So, blame them for today's loss if your looking for an excuse. :D

So it wasn't a player who was doing the yapping? Well you can't stop the home crowd from doing that, but Bosh's peeps should know better. :mad:

Dr. J. Naismith 01-06-2008 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Torontosaurus (Post 2715)
I can't recall how much time on the court Bargnani had, but he started well and then ended up dead wood.

He played about 20 minutes and was insignificant like we've mostly seen him this season. He alone had about 4 or 5 good chances to get defensive rebounds only to be overpowered by players like Gooden and Big Z to get offensive boards over him. People complain about Bosh playing soft, well Bargnani plays like he a piece of delicate "China" dishware. :(

raptor123 01-06-2008 03:52 PM

Where in the hell was bargs in the second half, oh yeah he was on the bench. WTF Mitch your starting five carries you in this game the flow is there, bargs was in the starting 5 and part of that flow regardless of his personal stats the team was rocking.So why change it up in the second half was he hurt ?? Sometimes you just got to lay off and stop blaming the players in this one, chalk this loss due to being out coached. Just f....king brutal.:mad:
BY THE WAY BARGS FINISHED THE GAME WITH A PLUS 9.

Dr. J. Naismith 01-06-2008 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Torontosaurus (Post 2716)
So it wasn't a player who was doing the yapping? Well you can't stop the home crowd from doing that, but Bosh's peeps should know better. :mad:

I heard Chuck and Leo saying that Juan and Ford were talkin' smack from the bench, so my guess it that it was coming from both sides of the court. :(

Dr. J. Naismith 01-06-2008 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raptor123 (Post 2718)
Where in the hell was bargs in the second half, oh yeah he was on the bench. WTF Mitch your starting five carries you in this game the flow is there, bargs was in the starting 5 and part of that flow regardless of his personal stats the team was rocking.So why change it up in the second half was he hurt ?? Sometimes you just got to lay off and stop blaming the players in this one, chalk this loss due to being out coached. Just f....king brutal.:mad:

I'm sorry raptor123, but Bargnani is horrible period, but more significantly can't defend or rebound worth a lick. We stood a better chance of going with a smaller rebounding unit like Bosh, Moon and AP. Bargnani in there would just of caused more kaos in my opinion. :(

raptor123 01-06-2008 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. J. Naismith (Post 2720)
I'm sorry raptor123, but Bargnani is horrible period, but more significantly can't defend or rebound worth a lick. We stood a better chance of going with a smaller rebounding unit like Bosh, Moon and AP. Bargnani in there would just of caused more kaos in my opinion. :(

Doc he finished with a plus 9 in the game, he seems to be always on a short leash, the team was playing well with him in the game. So why change the flow doc, did it work ....nope...does mitch go back with bargs..nope....maybe we can recapture what we had in the first half nope...differant rules for differant players end of story we just got out coached.:mad:

Dr. J. Naismith 01-06-2008 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raptor123 (Post 2721)
Doc he finished with a plus 9 in the game, he seems to be always on a short leash, the team was playing well with him in the game. So why change the flow doc, did it work ....nope...does mitch go back with bargs..nope....maybe we can recapture what we had in the first half nope...differant rules for differant players end of story we just got out coached.:mad:

He was a plus 9 because Cleveland couldn't hit the broad side of a barn in the 1st half and Moon and Parker we're doing a heck of a job frustrating LeBron early. Andrea had no impact at all on the flow and doesn't deserve the credit and recognition your trying to give him right now. :mad:

If Sam had a fault at all this afternoon, it was not playing Hump's enough for his energy and rebounding abilities. Bosh is stretched too thin constantly and needs help and support in our front court. Until BC goes out and does something about it, we'll more breakdowns like today, than less. :(

raptor123 01-06-2008 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. J. Naismith (Post 2719)
I heard Chuck and Leo saying that Juan and Ford were talkin' smack from the bench, so my guess it that it was coming from both sides of the court. :(


doc if ford and juan were talking smack then both are idiots, both those guys are selfish players and james just stuck it up to both their little a...s.


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