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Old 12-08-2012, 01:32 PM   #41 (permalink)
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B.C. is concerned about character on his teams. Well guys not might be getting arrested or "making it rain" in strip clubs, but part of character is doing what you are actually capable of doing on the court.

But I guess it is kind of hard to hold guys accountable when some guys can get away with larceny when they pick up their paycheques.

If you work in an office where the team needs everyone working hard to succeed, but a couple of guys are allowed to sit on facebook half the time, there will come a day when your best employees bail on you and tune you out.
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Old 12-08-2012, 01:41 PM   #42 (permalink)
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B.C. is concerned about character on his teams. Well guys not might be getting arrested or "making it rain" in strip clubs, but part of character is doing what you are actually capable of doing on the court.

But I guess it is kind of hard to hold guys accountable when some guys can get away with larceny when they pick up their paycheques.

If you work in an office where the team needs everyone working hard to succeed, but a couple of guys are allowed to sit on facebook half the time, there will come a day when your best employees bail on you and tune you out.
Agreed. AB showed up last night and few others did. The next night it might be Ed, or Lowry, or DD, but never everybody. This is the antithesis to a team.
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Old 12-08-2012, 01:44 PM   #43 (permalink)
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Nobody showed up last night. Bargnani scored efficiently but was non-existent from a defensive aspect. I'm sure his fanboys will scream "ZOMG DID YOU SEE THAT BLOCK ON MILLSAP!?!?" and I'll say, "Bargnani was on the floor during Utah's 3pt clinic and missed every rotation possible."
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Old 12-08-2012, 01:47 PM   #44 (permalink)
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Nobody showed up last night. Bargnani scored efficiently but was non-existent from a defensive aspect. I'm sure his fanboys will scream "ZOMG DID YOU SEE THAT BLOCK ON MILLSAP!?!?" and I'll say, "Bargnani was on the floor during Utah's 3pt clinic and missed every rotation possible."
at that point everybody was missing everything.... the game was so far gone it didn't matter. The first Q, he was defending... then the deep, talented bench came in.....
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Old 12-08-2012, 02:00 PM   #45 (permalink)
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I just don't understand WHY they can't play defence? WIDE open shots everywhere on the court. All their wins come with allowing the opponents score under 100. Just play DEFENCE and you have a good shot???
Everyone focus' on the defence, and at first glance after giving up 131, makes sense, but I'm convinced that sucking offensively, poor execution and turnovers make getting back & being successful on D so much harder. The Raps shot 40% last night, 29% from 3. You can't win in the NBA with that, and the cRaps are averaging 42.6% shooting, 5th last in the league. If you are better offensively = less fast breaks/run outs for other team, you can get back and set up half court defence easier, and you even get an energy boost seeing the ball go in more often. Having a good offence in my opinion makes playing D much easier. There is a correlation...Raps are 5th last in shooting % at 42.6 and 5th last in defensive shooting % at 46.3. Want better defence, simple, make more shots, turn it over less. Enough of the defence, defence, defence talk. I think that Casey is the polar opposite of Mike D'antoni. Both are smart basketball minds, but are flawed. D'antoni clearly doesn't CARE about defence and Casey, to me, doesn't CARE about offence. After every loss even when they utterly stink offensively he only talks about D and dismiss' offence, saying it will come and 'we got guys that can score' Stubborn to a fault I believe.
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You can blame lack of O while scoring 99, but lack of D is what is causing losses and is what can make up for any lack of O. Philly won again tonight. Remember how you couldn't imagine them making the playoffs?
Dead wrong. Sorry to be so harsh but 99 points sounds good...40 % shooting is awful. 29% from 3 just as bad. You can blame the offence. They Shot 33/82. If they made 5 more of those shots they'd shoot 46%. That's at least +10 points probably more because those aren't opportunities for fast breaks against us. They had 15 turnovers, take 5 of those away and even less opportunity to run it down and get an easy open look because our defence isn't set. And to prove just how poor our offence is how about our Assist totals: 13 last night vs. 31 for the jazz. Our offence stinks!!
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Dead wrong. Sorry to be so harsh but 99 points sounds good...40 % shooting is awful. 29% from 3 just as bad. You can blame the offence. They Shot 33/82. If they made 5 more of those shots they'd shoot 46%. That's at least +10 points probably more because those aren't opportunities for fast breaks against us. They had 15 turnovers, take 5 of those away and even less opportunity to run it down and get an easy open look because our defence isn't set. And to prove just how poor our offence is how about our Assist totals: 13 last night vs. 31 for the jazz. Our offence stinks!!


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Colangelo is travelling with the team apparently...

Something going down in LA or maybe just wants to meet with the team (or Casey!!!!)
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Old 12-08-2012, 05:24 PM   #49 (permalink)
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For some reason, I'm sensing something with the players attitudes..

I love Casey as a coach and the defensive mindset he brought in this year, but something is seriously wrong.

This kind of game could get a coach fired..
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Old 12-08-2012, 06:09 PM   #50 (permalink)
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Colangelo is travelling with the team apparently...

Something going down in LA or maybe just wants to meet with the team (or Casey!!!!)
Isn't this a regular thing?
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Dead wrong. Sorry to be so harsh but 99 points sounds good...40 % shooting is awful. 29% from 3 just as bad. You can blame the offence. They Shot 33/82. If they made 5 more of those shots they'd shoot 46%. That's at least +10 points probably more because those aren't opportunities for fast breaks against us. They had 15 turnovers, take 5 of those away and even less opportunity to run it down and get an easy open look because our defence isn't set. And to prove just how poor our offence is how about our Assist totals: 13 last night vs. 31 for the jazz. Our offence stinks!!
Great. So we lose 131 to 109. How could I be so stupid.
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Old 12-08-2012, 08:22 PM   #52 (permalink)
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Great. So we lose 131 to 109. How could I be so stupid.
he was implying that if we had a decent offence, ie actually RUNNING good plays successfully / looking for the open man / just overall having a better offensive system to knock down the best possible shot.
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we would worry less about people getting back too late giving a fast break and being in the wrong position on defense while keeping our confidence up on both ends. maybe this game would of been closer.

thats what i got from his post at least.

makes sense. fire casey.
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Old 12-08-2012, 08:26 PM   #53 (permalink)
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Everyone focus' on the defence, and at first glance after giving up 131, makes sense, but I'm convinced that sucking offensively, poor execution and turnovers make getting back & being successful on D so much harder. The Raps shot 40% last night, 29% from 3. You can't win in the NBA with that, and the cRaps are averaging 42.6% shooting, 5th last in the league. If you are better offensively = less fast breaks/run outs for other team, you can get back and set up half court defence easier, and you even get an energy boost seeing the ball go in more often. Having a good offence in my opinion makes playing D much easier. There is a correlation...Raps are 5th last in shooting % at 42.6 and 5th last in defensive shooting % at 46.3. Want better defence, simple, make more shots, turn it over less. Enough of the defence, defence, defence talk. I think that Casey is the polar opposite of Mike D'antoni. Both are smart basketball minds, but are flawed. D'antoni clearly doesn't CARE about defence and Casey, to me, doesn't CARE about offence. After every loss even when they utterly stink offensively he only talks about D and dismiss' offence, saying it will come and 'we got guys that can score' Stubborn to a fault I believe.
Well chosen handle. He's a well respected basketball tactician

40% shooting for the Raps because Utah played D! and rebounded! and scored 131 against a team that didn't play D! or rebound.
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he was implying that if we had a decent offence, ie actually RUNNING good plays successfully / looking for the open man / just overall having a better offensive system to knock down the best possible shot.


we would worry less about people getting back too late giving a fast break and being in the wrong position on defense while keeping our confidence up on both ends. maybe this game would of been closer.

thats what i got from his post at least.

makes sense. fire casey.
I agree that the offense can effect the defense, but they have gone away from the completely stupid high paced offense of rushed shots and little movement that was indeed very problematic for an already weak defense. They started off last game looking like there was some trust developing. Executing on offense takes one time to develop. There's no way you overlook defensive improvement in order to accelerate that. Figure out the proper pace that best units your chances, yes. Try to build on whatever chemistry is there, yes. But without being able to rely on getting any stops consistently, in the half court or in transition, just leaves any team stuck in a hole.

Colangelo would love to see an offense that liked better, and by trading baskets and catching a few breaks, win a few more games and hide what desperately needs to be done for a little longer.

Fire Bryan.
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Old 12-10-2012, 10:49 AM   #55 (permalink)
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Last night was clearly an example of how awful coaching the Raptors have. They keep talking about defense, well if you don't have any offensive game plan, you can defend and have defensive stops but if you can't score, it becomes useless. There was a point where the Raps where outshooting the Clippers in the number of attempts. Problem was their offensive play execution was awful. And then the player substitutions were horrendous.

Casey has to go.
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Last night was clearly an example of how awful coaching the Raptors have. They keep talking about defense, well if you don't have any offensive game plan, you can defend and have defensive stops but if you can't score, it becomes useless. There was a point where the Raps where outshooting the Clippers in the number of attempts. Problem was their offensive play execution was awful. And then the player substitutions were horrendous.

Casey has to go.

And you expect Colangelo with his track record to select the right replacement, even on an interim basis?
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I only recall the Clippers having a lot more attempts than the Raptors, and yet the Raptors had a small lead thanks to a good number of stops. There's no doubt that this team could use some more scoring, but it just can't come at the expense of defense. Having close to the worst defense in the league is just not going to allow for any kind of progress.
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I only recall the Clippers having a lot more attempts than the Raptors, and yet the Raptors had a small lead thanks to a good number of stops. There's no doubt that this team could use some more scoring, but it just can't come at the expense of defense. Having close to the worst defense in the league is just not going to allow for any kind of progress.
a good offense actually helps the defense. We don't make them work at all. It's really gross.
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Old 12-10-2012, 12:55 PM   #59 (permalink)
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Glaring things in the 4th quarter:

-Calderon brought in in a 5 point game and kept in too long for Lowry and the offense sputtered. Lead ballooned to 11+ points.
-Derozan on and wasn't utilized at all. I think he got maybe 1-2 shots the rest of the way, none of which in the post or going to the rim.
-Kleiza benched nearly the entire 4th and brought in with a couple minutes left in a blowout after playing well and in the flow of the game.
-First timeout called after Clippers expand the lead to 11 points when it was obvious several minutes before our offense was majorly lagging and falling apart. We won't outscore the deepest team in the league by 11 points so Casey basically ceded the game at that point.
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Glaring things in the 4th quarter:

-Calderon brought in in a 5 point game and kept in too long for Lowry and the offense sputtered. Lead ballooned to 11+ points.
-Derozan on and wasn't utilized at all. I think he got maybe 1-2 shots the rest of the way, none of which in the post or going to the rim.
-Kleiza benched nearly the entire 4th and brought in with a couple minutes left in a blowout after playing well and in the flow of the game.
-First timeout called after Clippers expand the lead to 11 points when it was obvious several minutes before our offense was majorly lagging and falling apart. We won't outscore the deepest team in the league by 11 points so Casey basically ceded the game at that point.
Casey slowly turning into Sam Mitchell
his defensive not looking good, and now making bad subs.. oh boy
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