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Old 12-08-2012, 12:42 AM   #21 (permalink)
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I was talking about the game in Atlanta, we lost something like 140 -100, and after that game they had a player meeting and then we won back to back in Washington and Chicago and I think we beat chicago by 30 points or so on a B2B ...
ok, getting destroyed by atlanta in atlanta or in toronto. you didn't witness what I witnessed live. also, that team (at least) actually had offensive capabilities
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Please don't bring Gasol into this. Really sick of that rumour because it's never going to happen. To straight up get Gasol the Lakers would have to be looking to dump his salary, which they aren't, or want some other players that could round out the team, which we don't have. The third possibility is trading JV or Ross or Lowry for him but that's bad both long and short term. Basically if we're at all involved, it'll be three plus teams and even then it won't be Gasol who ends up here.

We're dead meat guys: we're officially so bad that A. free agents won't sign here, B. Lowry won't want to stay, C. We have no pick this year and D. We've dug ourselves such a deep whole that every other team in the league wouldn't dream of making a fair deal with us, because they don't have to and will instead try to scam us out of the few assets we do have.

Shit, I don't even think Ed will want to re-sign with us after this year. Even if he'd be our starting PF.

It's going to be a long next three seasons.
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Old 12-08-2012, 12:54 AM   #23 (permalink)
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ok, getting destroyed by atlanta in atlanta or in toronto. you didn't witness what I witnessed live. also, that team (at least) actually had offensive capabilities
this team could be a hell of an offensive team with the right coach. Not elite, because we don't have an elite shot creator, but definitely top 10 in the league.
Just running P&R with Lowry and AB, with pietrus and demar in the corner and Davis under the basket to grab rebounds could get you a ton of points. Virtually any good offensive system could work with the players with have.

Too bad we have no system whatsoever, our offense feels like a jam session, everybody is improvising nearly all the time and that's probably why we have these monster quarters mixed with horrible ones in the same game ...
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Old 12-08-2012, 12:56 AM   #24 (permalink)
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He could of taken so many timeouts at key moments, and he doesnt, disgusting
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Old 12-08-2012, 12:57 AM   #25 (permalink)
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The problem is not the offense. How can anyone watch this team and think all they need to do is fix the offense?
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Old 12-08-2012, 12:57 AM   #26 (permalink)
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this team could be a hell of an offensive team with the right coach. Not elite, because we don't have an elite shot creator, but definitely top 10 in the league.
Just running P&R with Lowry and AB, with pietrus and demar in the corner and Davis under the basket to grab rebounds could get you a ton of points. Virtually any good offensive system could work with the players with have.

Too bad we have no system whatsoever, our offense feels like a jam session, everybody is improvising nearly all the time and that's probably why we have these monster quarters mixed with horrible ones in the same game ...
Indeed. 1 or 2 guys are "running the play", the rest are watching. That's it.
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Old 12-08-2012, 12:59 AM   #27 (permalink)
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The problem is not the offense. How can anyone watch this team and think all they need to do is fix the offense?
of course it's not the only problem, but it is a problem.
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Old 12-08-2012, 01:00 AM   #28 (permalink)
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The problem is not the offense. How can anyone watch this team and think all they need to do is fix the offense?
I really believe its the offense, did you see how many open shots the jazz got compared to all the contested shots we got? It was embarassing
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Old 12-08-2012, 01:01 AM   #29 (permalink)
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The problem is not the offense. How can anyone watch this team and think all they need to do is fix the offense?
we are equally bad on both sides, the main difference is that while most players don't really like to defend, very few have the same problem on offense. In other words, you can blame lack of D on effort, but lack of O is either personnel or coaching. And we have a ton of good offensive players on this roster. Triano's team didn't have nearly as many weapons and we were above average offensively.
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Old 12-08-2012, 01:02 AM   #30 (permalink)
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It's the personnel,If the GM is reluctant in improving the roster then he must be relieved of his duties. This team is too young and there's no leadership.
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Old 12-08-2012, 05:25 AM   #31 (permalink)
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this team could be a hell of an offensive team with the right coach. Not elite, because we don't have an elite shot creator, but definitely top 10 in the league.
Just running P&R with Lowry and AB, with pietrus and demar in the corner and Davis under the basket to grab rebounds could get you a ton of points. Virtually any good offensive system could work with the players with have.

Too bad we have no system whatsoever, our offense feels like a jam session, everybody is improvising nearly all the time and that's probably why we have these monster quarters mixed with horrible ones in the same game ...
Yeah, maybe if they weren't playing against other NBA players, they would be awesome offensively.

New roster please. New GM please.
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Old 12-08-2012, 05:44 AM   #32 (permalink)
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Coach Nate McMillan is floating around somewhere.

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Old 12-08-2012, 06:34 AM   #33 (permalink)
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pull a bobcat and hire ncaa assistant coach
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Old 12-08-2012, 07:44 AM   #34 (permalink)
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is jerry sloan a viable option to hire as head coach? realistically.
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we are equally bad on both sides, the main difference is that while most players don't really like to defend, very few have the same problem on offense. In other words, you can blame lack of D on effort, but lack of O is either personnel or coaching. And we have a ton of good offensive players on this roster. Triano's team didn't have nearly as many weapons and we were above average offensively.
You can blame lack of O while scoring 99, but lack of D is what is causing losses and is what can make up for any lack of O. Philly won again tonight. Remember how you couldn't imagine them making the playoffs?
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Here's the thing about Casey that pisses me off the most. He likely is a very good defensive-minded coach. But he got hired here to do something with some of the worst defensive players in the league, as opposed to building a team with a roster that has some capability of playing on both ends right down the line. It's ass backwards. I was happy to see him hired, because I thought it marked a change in Bryan's thinking, and that it would lead to the proper changes in the roster, but it turns out it was just another form of denial.
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Old 12-08-2012, 10:25 AM   #37 (permalink)
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Here's the thing about Casey that pisses me off the most. He likely is a very good defensive-minded coach. But he got hired here to do something with some of the worst defensive players in the league, as opposed to building a team with a roster that has some capability of playing on both ends right down the line. It's ass backwards. I was happy to see him hired, because I thought it marked a change in Bryan's thinking, and that it would lead to the proper changes in the roster, but it turns out it was just another form of denial.
My issue with Casey is that he said they spent most of their time in camp working on defense ... he had a lot excuses for early breakdowns given the number of new players on the team. His job is to assess the talent and use them appropriately ... Amir, Davis, Gray, Lowry, Fields, and even our new rookie Ross was chosen given is 2 way strengths, ... These guys are not known for their offensive skills (maybe Lowry) and he was talking about becoming better defensively with a full camp.

Both him and BC need to be held accountable ...

The ship is sinking at it's current rate .. I wish I had a solution, but it's significantly above my pay grade.
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Old 12-08-2012, 01:17 PM   #38 (permalink)
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Casey is a shit coach I hope he gets canned.
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Casey is a shit coach I hope he gets canned.
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You can blame lack of O while scoring 99, but lack of D is what is causing losses and is what can make up for any lack of O. Philly won again tonight. Remember how you couldn't imagine them making the playoffs?
Agreed, BUT having zero O means you're not making them work on D. We got run out of the gym last night and had many early in the shotclock jacks going on. It's like Boston and NYY in baseball facing an ace pitcher. They grind, try and see as many pitches as possible, chase that stud pitcher from the game after 6 innings due to pitch count and then feast on a bum reliever. We have zero patience, our guards get baited into a run and gun game, our bigs follow suit. The talent and depth was severely overrated. System and execution win over and we're playing without a game plan.
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