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jj33 05-12-2011 11:12 PM

The game is changing...
 
As you can see, no team in final four (counting OKC) has dominant inside scorer.

Years before, teams that won in playoffs had a dominant big.

If you can get a defensive minded C with some all star perimeter players, you can go far in playoffs.

The game is changing people!!! (from playoff perspective). Taking notes for a proper rebuild!

TORaptor4Ever 05-12-2011 11:43 PM

"Changing"? Maybe... maybe not.... the Bulls used that blueprint to perfection to the tune of 6 titles.

The "Bad Boy" Piston teams did too.

pzabby 05-13-2011 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by TORaptor4Ever (Post 538359)
"Changing"? Maybe... maybe not.... the Bulls used that blueprint to perfection to the tune of 6 titles.

The "Bad Boy" Piston teams did too.

if ur referring to the pistons team that beat L.A in 03 i think it was, ur mistaken. they had one of the most formidable fontcourts in the NBA with Bwallace in his defensive prime and R wallace in his offensive prime. it was a match made in heaven

DonMughal 05-13-2011 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by pzabby (Post 538361)
if ur referring to the pistons team that beat L.A in 03 i think it was, ur mistaken. they had one of the most formidable fontcourts in the NBA with Bwallace in his defensive prime and R wallace in his offensive prime. it was a match made in heaven

From the 90's.

VanCity 05-13-2011 12:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TORaptor4Ever (Post 538359)
"Changing"? Maybe... maybe not.... the Bulls used that blueprint to perfection to the tune of 6 titles.

The "Bad Boy" Piston teams did too.

hence him stating that the the final four teams now differ from the championship teams from the past....

rapsmannn 05-13-2011 05:12 AM

team chemistry beats everything

boston traded perkins, chemistry is off

pau gasol had marital drama, chemistry went off again

chicago, miami, and dallas all are having fun and lving playing together,

LX 05-13-2011 06:49 AM

Rasheed was not an inside scorer. Both Pistons teams fit that bill.

And the final four isn't set yet. There still could be a team with an inside presence moving on. Overall though, the new rules have made it harder for everyone to score inside. Speed has become more important than size in that respect, on both ends of the court. Kemba would work out just fine in other words.

MARTYNAS 05-13-2011 07:33 AM

Talent and team game wins championships, not one specific position.

Claudius 05-13-2011 08:22 AM

I dunno, how many championships did the Spurs win with Duncan? Speed on the wings + a dominant post player will give you rings.

LightsOut 05-13-2011 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TORaptor4Ever (Post 538359)
"Changing"? Maybe... maybe not.... the Bulls used that blueprint to perfection to the tune of 6 titles.

The "Bad Boy" Piston teams did too.

you fail try again

TORaptor4Ever 05-13-2011 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by LightsOut (Post 538386)
you fail try again

I don't think that you understand this thread at all.

You should read it again.

TORaptor4Ever 05-13-2011 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by VanCity (Post 538365)
hence him stating that the the final four teams now differ from the championship teams from the past....

And my point was that they don't. Not ALL of the championship teams from the past anyway.

The Lakers, Spurs and Rockets used a prime time big man.

The Pistons and Bulls did not.

archie63 05-13-2011 10:01 AM

How can you all forget that the Bulls had a big inside presence in BILL WENNINGTON.
I'm ashamed for all you canadiens...:mischief:

archie63 05-13-2011 10:03 AM

Seriously the game is changed but last year finals were decided by the Celtics missing Perkins against a team with some big bodies inside

Northern Neighbour 05-13-2011 10:05 AM

I would consider Boozer to be a dominant inside scorer.

Anyway, the game has always been about having dominant perimeter players, especially since the 3-point line was introduced and new rules were implemented to prevent things like hand checking. Even the championship teams that had dominant big men (e.g., Houston, San Antonio, LA Lakers, Boston Celtics) also had excellent perimeter players.

What is happening this season isn't really anything new.

JoeyJoJo Shabbadu 05-13-2011 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by jj33 (Post 538347)
As you can see, no team in final four (counting OKC) has dominant inside scorer.

Years before, teams that won in playoffs had a dominant big.

If you can get a defensive minded C with some all star perimeter players, you can go far in playoffs.

The game is changing people!!! (from playoff perspective). Taking notes for a proper rebuild!

Welcome to the 1990s sir.

LightsOut 05-13-2011 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by TORaptor4Ever (Post 538396)
I don't think that you understand this thread at all.

You should read it again.

sure I don't understand :cookie: the bulls and pistons teams are from how long ago ? Exactly.

Acie 05-13-2011 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by LightsOut (Post 538452)
sure I don't understand :cookie: the bulls and pistons teams are from how long ago ? Exactly.

The late 80's through the mid to late 90's...

LightsOut 05-13-2011 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Acie (Post 538454)
The late 80's through the mid to late 90's...

lol I know... which makes his post a fail

Acie 05-13-2011 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by LightsOut (Post 538482)
lol I know... which makes his post a fail

Why?

His point is sound.

Neither team relied on dominant low post play, much like the four semi-finalists this year.


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