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Old 05-13-2011, 01:53 PM   #21 (permalink)
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This was clear since the last round of rule changes pretty much made quick perimeter players unguardable one-on-one. In other words - it's by design, and not a divine one.
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Old 05-13-2011, 02:01 PM   #22 (permalink)
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i would much prefer a solid defensive centre. Rather a scoring centre.
But i like Bargnani....oh me nerves. lol
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Old 05-13-2011, 02:13 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Why?

His point is sound.

Neither team relied on dominant low post play, much like the four semi-finalists this year.
but its 2011 now do the math than read the op
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Old 05-13-2011, 02:34 PM   #24 (permalink)
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but its 2011 now do the math than read the op
The op said the game is changing and teams in the past had dominant low post scoring threats. ToRap pointed out two very successful teams in the past that didn't. If anything, it proves that things are cyclical.
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Old 05-13-2011, 03:18 PM   #25 (permalink)
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This was clear since the last round of rule changes pretty much made quick perimeter players unguardable one-on-one. In other words - it's by design, and not a divine one.
And the rule changes also limited big men more than before, by allowing for teams to sag into the paint where they would have been called for illegal defense before. It's also much tougher to get a feel for when a double-team is coming in order to be able to pass to the open man and get a reliable inside-out game in play. So much comes from guard penetration now instead.
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Old 05-13-2011, 04:00 PM   #26 (permalink)
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The op said the game is changing and teams in the past had dominant low post scoring threats. ToRap pointed out two very successful teams in the past that didn't. If anything, it proves that things are cyclical.
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Old 05-13-2011, 04:06 PM   #27 (permalink)
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if ur referring to the pistons team that beat L.A in 03 i think it was, ur mistaken. they had one of the most formidable fontcourts in the NBA with Bwallace in his defensive prime and R wallace in his offensive prime. it was a match made in heaven
dude the badboy pistons are the ones in the 90s.
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Old 05-13-2011, 04:17 PM   #28 (permalink)
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Really it's the same as always to me, defense above all else. The thing we're the worst at is the reason why teams win championships.
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Old 05-15-2011, 03:50 PM   #29 (permalink)
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"Changing"? Maybe... maybe not.... the Bulls used that blueprint to perfection to the tune of 6 titles.

The "Bad Boy" Piston teams did too.
The Bulls won in no small part because they had the best player to ever play the game. Other than that, they were still playing in a big-man dominated league; teams they had to routinely beat to get to the finals: Shaq's Magic, the Knicks with Ewing, a balanced Hornets team with Alonzo Mourning, the Spurs with David Robinson, the Olajuwon and Drexler Rockets and the StocktontoMalone Jazz. Don't forget Dikembe Mutombo in there too.

When Jordan took those two years off, Olajuwon's Rockets won the title back to back, first against Ewing's Knicks and second against Shaq and the Magic.

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I do agree that is has become a guard dominated league now; Jordanball is king.

It also doesn't hurt that there are fewer dominant big men in the league - there's only one semi-unstoppable center in the league - Dwight Howard. Believe it or not, the second scoring C in the league is Andrea Bargnani!
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Old 05-16-2011, 01:01 AM   #30 (permalink)
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This is very true, great thread.
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I dunno, you watch a team like the Bulls yesterday and one of the big reasons why they're so good is because of their post players.

Yeah, they may not be traditional big men (a la Ewing, Deke, Olajuwon etc.) but Bulls have been a great rebounding and defensive team because of their bigs and that's still gotta count for something. Even a team like Dallas with Chandler and Dirk. This is a big reason why I don't see Miami or OKC in the Finals this year. You need good big men still.
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Old 05-16-2011, 12:14 PM   #32 (permalink)
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can't teach big.
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Old 05-16-2011, 08:43 PM   #33 (permalink)
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That's what I said.... You don't need a big that dominates the ball inside, just do dirty job. Rebound, block shots, play D! That's it!

BTW, Bulls defence is AWESOME!!!! Taj Gibson staying in front of LBJ, Noah in front of Wade... Quickness is getting it done!
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Old 05-16-2011, 08:50 PM   #34 (permalink)
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can't teach big.
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