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Acie 03-29-2011 09:13 PM

Five reasons to keep Triano
 
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1. He’s had a young and inexperienced roster
The Raptors sport one of the most youthful teams in the NBA. Each night, they trot out a lineup featuring a rookie (Ed Davis); two key players in just their second professional season (DeMar DeRozan and James Johnson); a backup point guard in his third season (Jerryd Bayless); and a motley crew of other role players that play significant minutes despite their lack of pro experience. Many of these guys know how to work with Triano, and he can help build them into more mature players.

2. The team has been decimated by injury
First off, the Raptors’ most experienced and vocal player, Reggie Evans, has spent 47 games on the bench with a broken foot. Evans was one of the league leaders in rebounds when he went down, and it’s not unreasonable to think the Raps would’ve won at least a handful more games if he had been healthy. And Evans is only the tip of the injury iceberg for this year.

3. No help from the man upstairs
Because MLSE has made it clear this is a rebuilding year, management hasn’t made any effort to go out and get Triano the kind of players he needs for the team to win games. The plan for the Raptors is geared for the long run—the trouble for Triano is that NBA coaches tend to be judged on whether or not they win now.

4. A glaring dearth of talent
There’s no doubt that Triano has been dealt a difficult hand. He took the team over in the midst of a transition period, and the bones that have been thrown his way have turned out to have very little meat on them (see: Turkoglu, Hedo). The hard truth for the organization is that no amount of coaching could make the Raps’ current squad into contenders.

5. It makes financial sense

If Triano’s option is picked up for next season, he’s set to make just over $2 million—a relative bargain in NBA terms. Triano isn’t in a position to ask for more dough, and what’s more, work stoppage is a real possibility. The team will likely be loath to bring in new, more expensive blood. MLSE surely doesn’t want to shell out the big bucks for a coach that may not preside over a single game next year.

LINK - Toronto Life

Barracuda 03-29-2011 09:14 PM

6. I like him, dammit.

Dark Knight 03-29-2011 09:15 PM

7. He's Canadian. :cookie:

js12 03-29-2011 09:16 PM

Cue jeffb...

LX 03-29-2011 09:18 PM

Is it just me or can all 5 reasons be summed up as -

1. He doesn't have enough good players.

jeffb 03-29-2011 09:19 PM

If you look at his nearly 3 seasons altogether, he's been a disaster. This season he should have some slack even though he's still pretty shit, but the team is young. But prior to this season he had decent teams that imo underachieved, especially defensively. If this was his first season, then yeah. But after 3 seasons, i've certainly seen enough of him and his "defensive philosophy". Then again let him hang himself next season, we're not gonna win a championship anyway. Whatever.

BballWatcher 03-29-2011 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by LX (Post 524871)
Is it just me or can all 5 reasons be summed up as -

1. He doesn't have enough good players.

Heh, yep. It's a pretty redundant list.

js12 03-29-2011 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by jeffb (Post 524873)
If you look at his nearly 3 seasons altogether, he's been a disaster. This season he should have some slack even though he's still pretty shit, but the team is young. But prior to this season he had decent teams that imo underachieved, especially defensively. If this was his first season, then yeah. But after 3 seasons, i've certainly seen enough of him and his "defensive philosophy". Then again let him hang himself next season, we're not gonna win a championship anyway. Whatever.

I think we should give him another shot.

As you said, he probably underacheived defensively in his first season. But that was his first experience as head coach, and they were transferring from Mitchell's system. Anyways, we weren't that great defensively that year (good defenders that come to mind are O'Neal-later Marion, Parker, maybe Bosh).

The other seasons, we were just simply terrible defensively. We had little defence last season, and not much improvement in terms of personnel this year.

Don Vito 03-29-2011 09:23 PM

#1 could be flipped the other way, we have a young group so we need a veteran coach.

jj33 03-29-2011 09:25 PM

Fuck him!!! He has a young but athletic roster!

I would keep him if we had trouble scoring but giving it all on D!!

giving 84 pts in a half.... FIRE HIS ASS!!! Tired of these excuses!

jeffb 03-29-2011 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by js12 (Post 524877)
I think we should give him another shot.

As you said, he probably underacheived defensively in his first season. But that was his first experience as head coach, and they were transferring from Mitchell's system. Anyways, we weren't that great defensively that year (good defenders that come to mind are O'Neal-later Marion, Parker, maybe Bosh).

The other seasons, we were just simply terrible defensively. We had little defence last season, and not much improvement in terms of personnel this year.

First season? He was even worse in his 2nd and 3rd seasons.

jeffb 03-29-2011 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Don Vito (Post 524878)
#1 could be flipped the other way, we have a young group so we need a veteran coach.

This i agree with. Rookie or less experienced HC teaching rookies/sophs.....imo isn't that bright on BC's part. Then again we weren't this young when he was hired.

js12 03-29-2011 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by jeffb (Post 524883)
First season? He was even worse in his 2nd and 3rd seasons.

What I meant was that he had less to work with in this 2nd and 3rd season, thus the drop in defence is expected.

jeffb 03-29-2011 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by js12 (Post 524889)
What I meant was that he had less to work with in this 2nd and 3rd season, thus the drop in defence is expected.

Actually his 2nd season (last season) he had more talent to work with then in his first season. Take a look at the roster we had his first season. To me he's one of the 3 or 4 worst coaches in the league.

Chiggmo 03-29-2011 09:32 PM

Reason to not keep him: The other topic about Rick A. Not going back to houston, I'd take him any day over triano.

Shadowfax 03-29-2011 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by jeffb (Post 524873)
If you look at his nearly 3 seasons altogether, he's been a disaster. This season he should have some slack even though he's still pretty shit, but the team is young. But prior to this season he had decent teams that imo underachieved, especially defensively. If this was his first season, then yeah. But after 3 seasons, i've certainly seen enough of him and his "defensive philosophy". Then again let him hang himself next season, we're not gonna win a championship anyway. Whatever.

i'm so sick of all these generalized responses from you regarding JT

if you have a problem with his "defensive philosophies" then give me some specifics...break it down and give me examples
all i constantly hear from you is "he's been shit", "he's been a disaster", blah blah blah
you offer NOTHING regarding what needs to change...player mechanics, rotations, systems etc etc

enlighten us with your infinite wisdom

jeffb 03-29-2011 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Mxyzptlk (Post 524908)
i'm so sick of all these generalized responses from you regarding JT

if you have a problem with his "defensive philosophies" then give me some specifics...break it down and give me examples
all i constantly hear from you is "he's been shit", "he's been a disaster", blah blah blah
you offer NOTHING regarding what needs to change...player mechanics, rotations, systems etc etc

enlighten us with your infinite wisdom

WTF are you talking about. Under him we've been one of the worst defensive teams in recent history. His teams look lost out there, even prior to this season with more veteran players. His late game decisions on the defensive end are often terrible. Until this season, he often times was awful at knowing when to go zone and didn't use it enough, especially last season.To put it simply, the guy is lost on how to coach defense and has been for 3 seasons.


Oh, and this too.....

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Originally Posted by jj33 (Post 524879)
Fuck him!!! He has a young but athletic roster!

I would keep him if we had trouble scoring but giving it all on D!!

giving 84 pts in a half.... FIRE HIS ASS!!! Tired of these excuses!



eazy187 03-29-2011 09:54 PM

Like anything, it's gonna take time. I'm willing to wait 15 or 20 games into next season. I want to see what he can do when our team has more of an established direction.

FoldedLaundry 03-29-2011 09:57 PM

I wouldn't mind seeing him next season if there is one

Chiggmo 03-29-2011 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by eazy187 (Post 524920)
Like anything, it's gonna take time. I'm willing to wait 15 or 20 games into next season. I want to see what he can do when our team has more of an established direction.

Hearing that every years is just plain annoying.... :sigh:


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