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Old 11-07-2013, 07:23 PM   #381 (permalink)
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You're right. Full of chuckers. Just full of them. Every player on this team just chucks.
Our two leading scorers are the definition of chucker. If you want to be picky and annoying, I should have worded it better. But fact of the matter is a very very large portion of the teams shots come from two people and those shots are very often not high quality.

I like that you didn't argue that I said we're mediocre. I guess even someone as blindly optimistic as you can see that now.
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Old 11-07-2013, 07:47 PM   #382 (permalink)
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Old 11-07-2013, 07:55 PM   #383 (permalink)
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Old 11-07-2013, 08:02 PM   #384 (permalink)
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LOL, don't know where to post this, but pasta leg is starting at Center tonight in place of Chandler (out with injury). This is gonna be funny. Git yerself to the Knicks board for some juicy commentary.
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Old 11-07-2013, 08:07 PM   #385 (permalink)
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Our two leading scorers are the definition of chucker. If you want to be picky and annoying, I should have worded it better. But fact of the matter is a very very large portion of the teams shots come from two people and those shots are very often not high quality.

I like that you didn't argue that I said we're mediocre. I guess even someone as blindly optimistic as you can see that now.
Yeah blindly optimistic. Where did i ever say we were world beaters?

There have been plenty of good quality shots. Demar has taken very few bad shots so far. Rudy has improved his shot selection as well. His shooting on the other hand, like with a wide open look from the free throw line last night, looks damn ugly. That still doesn't make the team anywhere close to being full of chuckers. The wings are all getting good shots in or around the paint. The team is scoring in the paint at a good rate. A ton of the isos are post-ups. If anything it's hard to see them as being a jump-shooting team. You need to look up the meaning of chucker, because your definition is ridiculous.

Oh - and the comment about needing to blow the team up because it's mediocre is equally ridiculous. So all but 6 teams, if that, need to blow their teams up? And then one magical draft somehow raises them above mediocrity so that they no longer need to trash themselves? I feel bad for you to have no real sense of what competitive sports can be.

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Old 11-07-2013, 08:40 PM   #386 (permalink)
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First: Dwane always – ALWAYS – extends games and to not to in those circumstances runs absolutely counter to his history and, we thought, his philosophy. It was just so out of character that I was kind of caught off guard while the play was unfolding.

Second: Even if you accept that they’ll try for a stop and hope Charlotte takes a shot with a few seconds left, it’s incomprehensible that after the ball went out of bounds with 5.2 seconds left and 3.3 on the shotclock, they didn’t foul on the catch of the inbounds pass. That was perhaps the most egregious aspect of the whole thing, they had time to think about it as a staff. And at some point in the whole 30 seconds, someone had to realize that, hey, Charlotte is THE SECOND WORST FOUL SHOOTING TEAM IN THE LEAGUE!

Now, Dwane’s a big boy and has been around a lot longer than any of us and he knows full well how is he is held accountable and by whom.

I respect him for that, he is unwavering in his confidence in his abilities and his decisions and understands that second-guessing is part of what he signed up for.

He’ll be second-guessed for that one more than any other; and I think I’d be leading the pack.
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Old 11-07-2013, 08:42 PM   #387 (permalink)
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Old 11-07-2013, 08:55 PM   #388 (permalink)
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Yeah, he really should give up as a beat writer and just become a bot.
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Old 11-07-2013, 09:01 PM   #389 (permalink)
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Old 11-07-2013, 09:45 PM   #390 (permalink)
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What about this as a possible explanation? They call a timeout with 43 seconds remaining. It had to be decided right there that they'd go for a 2 for 1. Then they end up passing up shots, lowry dribbles it all over the court, and they blow the 2 for 1 opportunity. Casey sticks with the 2 for 1 ploy anyways. Maybe out of spite, or out of stubbornness. The fact is that they failed to execute a perfectly good 2 for 1 opportunity. And that was one of dozens of poorly executed possessions on both ends. There really was a lot on the players in this one.

I don't know if such a tact is defensible or reasonable, or effective moving forward if that was the intent. I can't see such an obvious disconnect being a positive. But then maybe it's the kind of negative factor that works. That's just being hopeful, but i will keep it in mind if they suddenly get their shit straight.
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Yeah blindly optimistic. Where did i ever say we were world beaters?

There have been plenty of good quality shots. Demar has taken very few bad shots so far. Rudy has improved his shot selection as well. His shooting on the other hand, like with a wide open look from the free throw line last night, looks damn ugly. That still doesn't make the team anywhere close to being full of chuckers. The wings are all getting good shots in or around the paint. The team is scoring in the paint at a good rate. A ton of the isos are post-ups. If anything it's hard to see them as being a jump-shooting team. You need to look up the meaning of chucker, because your definition is ridiculous.
We might not be watching the same team then, because what I see is a ton of iso with a sprinkle of high screen leading to a pass to one of the wings who then proceed to attempt a drive but settle for a contested mid range jumper. You admit yourself in the post above this one that on many occasions this team does not execute well on offense.

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Oh - and the comment about needing to blow the team up because it's mediocre is equally ridiculous. So all but 6 teams, if that, need to blow their teams up? And then one magical draft somehow raises them above mediocrity so that they no longer need to trash themselves? I feel bad for you to have no real sense of what competitive sports can be.
I think we have different definitions of mediocrity. In terms of sports at least, I'd describe a mediocre team as one which is not great and does not have room to improve to the point which they can be great, which describes this team perfectly.
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Old 11-07-2013, 10:10 PM   #392 (permalink)
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We might not be watching the same team then, because what I see is a ton of iso with a sprinkle of high screen leading to a pass to one of the wings who then proceed to attempt a drive but settle for a contested mid range jumper. You admit yourself in the post above this one that on many occasions this team does not execute well on offense.



I think we have different definitions of mediocrity. In terms of sports at least, I'd describe a mediocre team as one which is not great and does not have room to improve to the point which they can be great, which describes this team perfectly.
I said they did not execute in this game, on either end. There is a disconnect. But there has been a strict adherence to getting into the paint. You see what you want to see. How do you explain all the points in the paint?

As to not having the room to improve to the point where they can be great - that describes the bulk of the nba. Instant greatness happens, but it's folly to look for it outside of rare occasions, especially by getting really bad as the first step.
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Old 11-07-2013, 11:48 PM   #393 (permalink)
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I said they did not execute in this game, on either end. There is a disconnect. But there has been a strict adherence to getting into the paint. You see what you want to see. How do you explain all the points in the paint?

As to not having the room to improve to the point where they can be great - that describes the bulk of the nba. Instant greatness happens, but it's folly to look for it outside of rare occasions, especially by getting really bad as the first step.
I agree, Rudy was especially intent on getting inside.... was nice to see, even if he couldn't finish!
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Old 11-08-2013, 08:42 AM   #394 (permalink)
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nba needs to figure out how to shorten the time in the final two minutes of the games, it gets painful watching it, sometimes you wish it was over

and also wow casey he hits new levels, by the way this years coach staff seems to be out for lunch, last year we had some bad calls go against us this year its the coaching decisions,

whats different the coaching staff
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Old 11-08-2013, 09:09 AM   #395 (permalink)
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I said they did not execute in this game, on either end. There is a disconnect. But there has been a strict adherence to getting into the paint. You see what you want to see. How do you explain all the points in the paint?

As to not having the room to improve to the point where they can be great - that describes the bulk of the nba. Instant greatness happens, but it's folly to look for it outside of rare occasions, especially by getting really bad as the first step.
Establishing a winning culture and a culture of success should be our main priority. I don't see how losing intentionally helps towards that goal.
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