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Dr. J. Naismith 11-20-2008 10:26 AM

FINAL: New Jersey Nets 129 - Toronto Raptors 127
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Calderon, Parker, Bargnani, Bosh, O'Neal

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Hayes, Williams, Dooling, Anderson, Ager, Hassell, Najera

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Bargnani: 25 pts. vs. Heat / Bosh: 28 PPG IN LAST 4 GP


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The "Boo Birds" will be back and in full effect Friday evening at the ACC for Vince Carter and his Nets will be visiting town. So-so season so far the NJ, but Carter and Harris will definitely be our focus on defense. Offensively, we have to let Bosh, JO and Bargnani do their thing and expose New Jersey's weak front court.:evillaugh:

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beastie_dan 11-20-2008 10:48 AM

The bigs should be able to do their thing, however I think Vince shows up and keeps the game close. Our bench has to play well against their even-thinner bench.

Raps 105
Nets 100

XiaominWu 11-20-2008 10:54 AM

I think Vince will shoot 4/19 and may have to rest his vagina at some point.

Raps win.

ClingRap 11-20-2008 11:27 AM

i don't think we're out of the ups and downs stage yet. despite that I think we still win. not by much, but we do.

Sick, Wicked and Nasty! 11-20-2008 12:04 PM

You guys are all talking about Vince but no one's mentioned Harris yet. He's on fire lately and exactly the type of player that torches us consistantly. I'm far more worried about him.

DVS 11-20-2008 12:10 PM


Originally Posted by Sick, Wicked and Nasty! (Post 78045)
You guys are all talking about Vince but no one's mentioned Harris yet. He's on fire lately and exactly the type of player that torches us consistantly. I'm far more worried about him.

I agree. Vince is getting up there in age and is primarily a jump shooter now anyways.

Nets are an interesting team and I really hope the Raptors beat them tonight. I really like to think the Raptors are better than mediocore teams like the Nets but I could be wrong

XiaominWu 11-20-2008 12:17 PM


Originally Posted by Sick, Wicked and Nasty! (Post 78045)
You guys are all talking about Vince but no one's mentioned Harris yet. He's on fire lately and exactly the type of player that torches us consistantly. I'm far more worried about him.

True.... and I actually am expecting a big game from Yi.

Windex 11-20-2008 12:52 PM

Calderon better watch out for Devin Harris. I expect him to score 30 points and get 10 assists.
Why is Jamario Moon starting?

I hate to say it but it wont be easy. O'Neal wont get a big amount of rebounds because Lopez is big and tough. I hope AP guards Vinsanity well.

Raptors 94
Nets 92

moremilk 11-20-2008 01:34 PM

I think Yi will have a horrible game, since he will be defended by Bosh and Bargnani most of the time, negating his height advantage. The only one I'm afraid is Harris, who is having a fantastic stretch of games. Hopefully it will end on Friday ... :)

Dr. J. Naismith 11-20-2008 01:40 PM


Originally Posted by TO2988 (Post 78086)
Why is Jamario Moon starting?

He's not, Bargnani likely will again.

Windex 11-20-2008 01:42 PM


Originally Posted by Dr. J. Naismith (Post 78117)
He's not, Bargnani likely will again.

Good because Simmons is a good match up for Bargnani

TORaptor4Ever 11-20-2008 03:04 PM

There's no such thing as a "gimme" for the Raps.

Vince almost always brings it when he's at the ACC.... and Harris has been playing well. If they're on they could torch us.

We'll see what happens.

oh-well 11-20-2008 03:24 PM

I believe YI is not playing for this game cuz he hurt his neck!

Dr. J. Naismith 11-20-2008 03:26 PM


Originally Posted by oh-well (Post 78193)
I believe YI is not playing for this game cuz he hurt his neck!

Is this confirmed oh-well? Boone might be back in time too. :(

takman_777 11-20-2008 03:32 PM

Friday night we welcome to the ACC the one and only Vince Carter and his traveling minstrel show, I mean the Nets. I am sure the Raptors fans will lovingly welcome back the team’s all-time scoring leader with loving shouts of adoration.

Now that I have that off my chest, Friday’s game with the Nets is another key divisional game that we can’t afford to lose. With the Celtics so far, and again, the class of the East if not the league we need to keep pace with the teams bunched up behind them until we can find our groove and put a few wins together. At 6 – 5, the Raptors are tied with the Knicks for 2nd in the Atlantic a game ahead of the 5 – 6 76ers and 2 games up on the 4 – 6 Nets. Divisional games this season will have huge playoff ramifications every night as the Celtics are showing little sign of slowing down with Kevin Garnett, Ray Allen and Paul Pierce doing what they do best, WIN.

The Raptors come into the game off a week where they played without Jose Calderon for two games. Sunday they were able to hold off the struggling Heat at the ACC then headed to Florida for a split against the Magic and the Heat. The Magic took advantage of our poor outside shooting as Jason Kapono and Jamario Moon struggled as they have all season and Will Solomon lead them to a two game total of 44 turnovers, 24 against the Magic as Hedo Turkoglu, Rashard Lewis and Jameer Nelson all had 22 points and attacked Chris Bosh and Jermaine O’Neal all night long. Wednesday saw a rematch against the Heat in Miami and the return of the spiritual leader of this team Jose Calderon. Cutting the turnovers in half allowed this team to spread the floor and move the ball as Chris Bosh and Jermaine O’Neal turned in double doubles with 31 points and 27 rebounds between them while Andrea Bargnani started with 10 quick points and 25 points on the game.

The Nets are coming off a week where they lost to the Pacers and the Cavaliers but beat the Hawks in a home and home last weekend. This team of course has Vince Carter who is still putting up 22.8 points a game and 5 assists. This year, they have a few guys that are full of potential and have been called a playoff team in more than one pre-season ranking. Devin Harris brings 23 points and 4 boards and 6 assists to the floor every night to help this team as they await an injured front court to return. Eduardo Najera, Josh Boone and Stromile Swift are all out at this point which leaves the front court to younger players such as Brook Lopez and Yi Jianlian who are playing well, as is Keyon Dooling. The Nets will be in tough as we continue to floor our 3 man wrecking crew up front while Anthony Parker seems to have found his stroke and Jose Calderon keep the back end humming along and in control. Devin Harris against Jose Calderon will be the match to pay attention to as both will try to establish the tempo of the game and keep the offenses running at a high level. Anthony Parker against Vince Carter will be the key match-up in the back court as Parker will have to play solid at both ends to contain him. Where the Nets will struggle is in the front court as Brook Lopez will probably start against Jermaine O’Neal and Chris Bosh will face Yi Jianlian which should give the Raptors another advantage as they bring into the game a 3 game average of 27/12 for Bosh and 14.5/15 for Jermaine. I am not sure who Sam Mitchell will start against Bobby Simmonds, but if Jamario starts, this will be an exciting match up of two very athletic wingmen. If Sam goes big, which I think he will to exploit the weak Nets front at this point, Andrea brings a three game average of 14 points and nearly 4 boards a game. If he can grab a few more rebounds, I think all Raptors fans would be able to handle those numbers night after night. Starting him at the 3 spot by nature would afford him less opportunity to grab boards, but he is beginning to balance his game out, which has to be good. Both benches are in search of consistency with Roko Ukic and Will Solomon showing how tough it is to step in and play PG in this league, Kris Humphries and Jason Kapono will be looked at to provide solid help from a bench that is very thin. The Nets are hurt and therefore their bench strength is starting which is never a good situation to be in but Ryan Anderson and Jarvis Hayes provide the minutes needed to get the guys rest.

I look for a game where both teams will rely on their stars. Chris Bosh and Vince Carter will be expected to shine. I also think that if the Raptors pound away at the inside on the glass as they have averaged 46.3 rebounds including 12.6 offensive boards per game over the last 3 games. They have allowed just 37.6 in the past 3 games, 11.3 of which are offensive. That is one area you don’t want to be the worst in the league at for sure.

Enjoy the game.:reporter:

Febreezy 11-20-2008 03:51 PM

I don't see carter performing well in the game.
Just like how he didn't perform well against the Raps in the playoff's at the ACC.
I think Harris is gonna torch us.

takman_777 11-20-2008 04:19 PM

even with josh boone in the lineup, this nets team can't keep up with our front line and if bargs plays any type of solid game, harris won't be enough to beat us. you think he is better than wade who dropped 40 on us and still lost. AP will give vc a tough night and harris won't out play JC.:yeah::coffee:

Thug 11-20-2008 04:50 PM


Originally Posted by DVS (Post 78048)
I agree. Vince is getting up there in age and is primarily a jump shooter now anyways.

Nets are an interesting team and I really hope the Raptors beat them tonight. I really like to think the Raptors are better than mediocore teams like the Nets but I could be wrong

The game isn't tonight

Ugo Ferst 11-20-2008 05:27 PM


Gurk 11-20-2008 05:35 PM

I say the Raps win, no doubt about it.
I can't wait to hear the LET'S GO RAPTORS VC SUCKS. I love that:yeah::dancing:

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