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Old 12-01-2013, 04:13 PM   #281 (permalink)
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Gay is a god damn bum. Guy shits the bed for 3 quarters and just turns it on in the fourth, to no avail.

Luckily for the playoff hopeful fans, Philly is getting their ass kicked by DET so we'll likely keep the ATL championship belt for now.
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Old 12-01-2013, 04:14 PM   #282 (permalink)
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I agree with TORaptor4Ever all the way on this one. I'm sick and tired of watching Gay being a selfish, black hole, ball hog, turnover machine, waste of space. I truthfully would trade him for any crappy deal right now because he is just a cancer to the team.

Highonpsi, I wouldn't say that TORaptor4Ever is trolling whatsoever. He is just making the same statement that pretty much everyone else on this forum wants to see happen. Hell, I'd even put either Ross or Novak in the starting line-up. Just get someone willing to pass and play team ball. Gay needs to go along with Casey. We need a solid coach that has been around the block with a good winning record like Hollins, Karl, SVG, etc. I personally am sick of watching JV play 18 minutes one night and then 33 the next. Throw him out for 32-35 minutes per night and let the kid play. Ross should be getting a good amount of minutes too. If they are glued to the bench they won't develop and we will keep being a treadmill team for years to come if nothing gets changed.
I don't know what you're talking about - DC is doing a great job developing players.
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I don't know what you're talking about - DC is doing a great job developing players.
You're fucking hilarious. You really don't get the difference between developing individual players and getting the most out of the team as a whole do you? Jonas plays like he did today and he stays on the floor. If he plays like he's completely lost and getting dominated, then you just can't keep him on the floor. It's pretty simple.
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Old 12-01-2013, 04:35 PM   #284 (permalink)
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You're fucking hilarious. You really don't get the difference between developing individual players and getting the most out of the team as a whole do you? Jonas plays like he did today and he stays on the floor. If he plays like he's completely lost and getting dominated, then you just can't keep him on the floor. It's pretty simple.
I was just affirming the excellence of DC which you have informed me of in the past.
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I was just affirming the excellence of DC which you have informed me of in the past.
Yeah - now you're just being a douche. I have hardly taken the position that Casey exudes any kind of excellence. There is a lot to be critical of. Constantly pointing to his ability to develop players as a weakness is just a ridiculous over-reach which you can only defend by bringing up the knee-jerk opinions of others. I think you should just drop it, and try to understand where Casey is in fact failing.
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Old 12-01-2013, 05:15 PM   #286 (permalink)
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in that press Conference the other day there was a question that goes something like:
Q: Who would you want to get a call from.
Gay answered ''My mom, I wouldn't want to get a call from my agent'' and seem to be sad for a moment.
Imo he thinks that he's likely to be traded soon
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Yeah - now you're just being a douche. I have hardly taken the position that Casey exudes any kind of excellence. There is a lot to be critical of. Constantly pointing to his ability to develop players as a weakness is just a ridiculous over-reach which you can only defend by bringing up the knee-jerk opinions of others. I think you should just drop it, and try to understand where Casey is in fact failing.
Too much iso plays, no P+r or d+kicks. Too many shots by the wings. Little to no involvement or plays for bigs. Smallball. Not using the play of 2 bigs instead conforming to the plays of other coaches. The apparent future of the franchise being mishandled like no tomorrow. Playing DD ~38 minutes a night. No explanation of why LF isn't playing. I know where DC is failing and development is a part of that either directly or indirectly.
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Old 12-01-2013, 06:22 PM   #288 (permalink)
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I agree with TORaptor4Ever all the way on this one. I'm sick and tired of watching Gay being a selfish, black hole, ball hog, turnover machine, waste of space. I truthfully would trade him for any crappy deal right now because he is just a cancer to the team.

Highonpsi, I wouldn't say that TORaptor4Ever is trolling whatsoever. He is just making the same statement that pretty much everyone else on this forum wants to see happen. Hell, I'd even put either Ross or Novak in the starting line-up. Just get someone willing to pass and play team ball. Gay needs to go along with Casey. We need a solid coach that has been around the block with a good winning record like Hollins, Karl, SVG, etc. I personally am sick of watching JV play 18 minutes one night and then 33 the next. Throw him out for 32-35 minutes per night and let the kid play. Ross should be getting a good amount of minutes too. If they are glued to the bench they won't develop and we will keep being a treadmill team for years to come if nothing gets changed.
He is putting Derozan on a pedestal. Have you ever seen Derozan lead the team to a win when it was close in the 4th?? Most if not all 20PPG scorers can do this, but Derozan almost always fails when the going gets tough. Atleast Gay can score in pressure situations most of the time. That is why I lay the blame mostly on Casey for Rudy's play. DD is just not the type of player to be relied on and when mixed with Rudy Gay, it just is not good.

I think with the right coach (and his staff) you would be able to see this better.
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You guys are picking at Rudy which is understandable....

But did you check out Denver's offense?? Lawson calls picks and drives to the MIDDLE, everyone attracts on the defensive end which leaves 2-3 option for Lawson to past to.

BALL MOVEMENT. I don't understand why Casey isnt making this as a factor for their offense at all. There were way too many ISO plays in the end.
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Old 12-01-2013, 06:54 PM   #290 (permalink)
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I don't understand why Casey isnt making this as a factor for their offense at all. There were way too many ISO plays in the end.
I don't understand how dumb Ujiri is for not getting rid of him. I think MU is as much of a problem as DC.
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Old 12-01-2013, 07:15 PM   #291 (permalink)
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I don't understand how dumb Ujiri is for not getting rid of him. I think MU is as much of a problem as DC.
Is Casey the only coach on payroll currently? Have Mitchell's and Triano's contracts expired? I agree that DC has to go, but there is a problem of having to pay out his contract.
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You're fucking hilarious. You really don't get the difference between developing individual players and getting the most out of the team as a whole do you? Jonas plays like he did today and he stays on the floor. If he plays like he's completely lost and getting dominated, then you just can't keep him on the floor. It's pretty simple.
Why is it a double standard that Gay gets a free pass doing all this stupid shit on the court?
Meanwhile our prized center is getting benched and not having a chance to play through his mistakes and learn.

Fucking awful, but I suppose FOR THE TANK!
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Why is it a double standard that Gay gets a free pass doing all this stupid shit on the court?
Meanwhile our prized center is getting benched and not having a chance to play through his mistakes and learn.

Fucking awful, but I suppose FOR THE TANK!
What are you talking about? Our prized Center doesn't get a chance to make mistakes and learn? Really? Ok then.
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What are you talking about? Our prized Center doesn't get a chance to make mistakes and learn? Really? Ok then.
He fucking plays like 20 mins a game.
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He fucking plays like 20 mins a game.
He is playing 27mpg. I think he should be getting 32mpg, but still.
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Roy hibbert doesn't play 30 per game.
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Roy hibbert doesn't play 30 per game.
Roy Hibbert wins, we give our mins to Aaron Gray and Tyler Shithole.
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Why is it a double standard that Gay gets a free pass doing all this stupid shit on the court?
Meanwhile our prized center is getting benched and not having a chance to play through his mistakes and learn.

Fucking awful, but I suppose FOR THE TANK!
Well said. Nice to see someone who sees the double standard occurring.
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Roy hibbert doesn't play 30 per game.
Is this a joke? Seriously. Indy have depth and are probably quite happy that they have Hibbert playing relatively low mpg. Also - they are a contending team.
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You guys are arguing when you should be celebrating. Team tank got a huge win today, seeing as we're going on a road trip with only 1 possible team we may be able to beat, and we'll be lucky to even be able to slow them down due to their surprising teamwork and 3 point shooting this year(Suns).

T.W.O is going to get a huge boost in the next 2 weeks, and we may finally get our wish of Casey being the first coach to go this year after the West Coast trip, which will then hopefully be a domino effect of Rudy and Lowry next to go.
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