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Old 02-19-2014, 11:36 PM   #361 (permalink)
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Just looking at the box score. didnt get to see the entire game. but i have a question. everyone is ripping casey and dd and kl. can anyone explain how dunleavy had 11 rebounds and AJ had 3? did amir shit the bed again?
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Old 02-19-2014, 11:37 PM   #362 (permalink)
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Just looking at the box score. didnt get to see the entire game. but i have a question. everyone is ripping casey and dd and kl. can anyone explain how dunleavy had 11 rebounds and AJ had 3? did amir shit the bed again?
He had a key and 1 in the last minute i believe. I can't tell you much more i only tuned in the last 3 minutes
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Old 02-19-2014, 11:40 PM   #363 (permalink)
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Just looking at the box score. didnt get to see the entire game. but i have a question. everyone is ripping casey and dd and kl. can anyone explain how dunleavy had 11 rebounds and AJ had 3? did amir shit the bed again?
3 rebounds for him seems to be close to his norm these days. The last 6 weeks he's averaging 5.8rpg. And who's ripping KL?
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Old 02-19-2014, 11:44 PM   #364 (permalink)
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another thing that speaks to casey's strengths is how we are often able to counter a team's strengths (took away w's 3pt shooting, chicago's rebounding). If only JV wouldn't be such a pussy, this team could be the #3 defense, we're not that far off.

Not sure how people can't appreciate that more, especially with a Raptors team that traditionally ranked in the bottom half or worse (irony alert).
This is absolutely true. When I criticize Casey, I'm not advocating letting him go. I've been thoroughly impressed with his game plans this season. But his late game play calls are too predictable. Whether it's Demar or Gay or even Bargs, there's virtually no off ball movement, no misdirection. Just ISO. As good as Casey has been, this critical part of coaching cannot be ignored.

Tonight and against Portland, Casey went to play calls that favored the defense (Portland had just stopped the dribble hand off they attempted to win the game) and they failed to even get a shot off.
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Valanciunas: 2pts/2reb
Patterson: 5pts/6reb
TH: 8pts/7reb
Amir: 9pts/3reb


That is pathetic production from our bigs.


4 players= 24pts/18reb


Dunlevea/Boozer had 19 rebounds. lol
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Old 02-19-2014, 11:49 PM   #366 (permalink)
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This is absolutely true. When I criticize Casey, I'm not advocating letting him go. I've been thoroughly impressed with his game plans this season. But his late game play calls are too predictable. Whether it's Demar or Gay or even Bargs, there's virtually no off ball movement, no misdirection. Just ISO. As good as Casey has been, this critical part of coaching cannot be ignored.

Tonight and against Portland, Casey went to play calls that favored the defense (Portland had just stopped the dribble hand off they attempted to win the game) and they failed to even get a shot off.
I agree - he needs to micromanage Demar in these situations a bit more. Demar is the right guy to give the ball to, but he isn't playing his regular game, he's trying to be Kobe or MJ instead of just making the right decision. Tonight it should have been a play for a drive right to the rim rather than give him the ball and let him decide what he wants to do.

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Old 02-19-2014, 11:51 PM   #367 (permalink)
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He had a key and 1 in the last minute i believe. I can't tell you much more i only tuned in the last 3 minutes
Individual rebounds can be misleading. He was far better than Patterson, and Valanciunas. He was the best big on the court for the Raptors, and there should be no reason imo why he shouldn't be starting next game. Once again Patterson just couldn't challenge anything at the start of the 1st or 3rd quarters. Boozer was getting any look he wanted against Patterson. The Raps need the Amir back.

I thought it was a great game though, the Bulls are playing legit play-off basketball right now, and the Raps hung tough. They made plenty of mistakes, but still had a chance to win.

As good as Hansbrough played tonight, he made some really dirty plays Grabbing Mohammed's arm and dropping to the ground is uncalled for. Mohammed should of knocked him out. He's lucky the officials didn't review the play.

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Old 02-19-2014, 11:54 PM   #368 (permalink)
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It really bothered me how DeRozan didn't even come close on that last second half-court shot...he had no hands in his face yet that ball had zero chance of going in. I'm wondering if anyone was bothered by this?

He is our so-called "young all-star " yet with a chance to go ahead, he comes nowhere close to the rim. At least come close! Don't have to hit it, but give it a chance at least.

He jumped off the wrong foot...had no touch on the ball. Just wasn't even close....smh
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Individual rebounds can be misleading. He was far better than Patterson, and Valanciunas. He was the best big on the court for the Raptors, and there should be no reason imo why he shouldn't be starting next game.
TH was better than Amir. I was even impressed with him on D. Both were good on D. I wouldn't start Amir for a while, he is still not 100% and you simply don't know what you're going to get from night to night.
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Just looking at the box score. didnt get to see the entire game. but i have a question. everyone is ripping casey and dd and kl. can anyone explain how dunleavy had 11 rebounds and AJ had 3? did amir shit the bed again?
Rebounding is definitely an issue at the moment. Dunleavy was getting away from Ross an awful lot, and Salmons doesn't have good legs on back to backs. I'm a bit pissed that Ross couldn't do more with his young fresh legs. In fact, he should be the guy looked to in last possession situations. But he is just a sophomore. And he did have his moments.

Jonas is rebounding as though he's turned into little hands man.



I will breath a sigh of relief when he starts grabbing boards with authority again. In the meantime it's become a bit contagious, with so many rebounds and loose balls just not being fought for properly. If there's one thing to legitimately rip DeMar for, it would be not getting on the ground for an important loose ball, and allowing Boozer to not only secure it, but be able to call a timeout.

But like i said earlier, i am pretty happy to see this game happen right after the break. It should really allow for the right focus to be demanded. There is a lot to be learned from a team like Chicago. Noah had his own troubles as a sophomore. Heinrich has had some bad stretches. Taj had some growing pains. They learned some lessons, and we can look at what they do to win and try to get there as well.
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TH was better than Amir. I was even impressed with him on D. Both were good on D. I wouldn't start Amir for a while, he is still not 100% and you simply don't know what you're going to get from night to night.
If he's playing he should be starting, playing 30 minutes off the bench or 30 minutes starting won't make a difference as far as recovering from an injury. The last two games the team has lacked a defensive presence inside to set a tone for the game. Amir is that guy.
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It really bothered me how DeRozan didn't even come close on that last second half-court shot...he had no hands in his face yet that ball had zero chance of going in. I'm wondering if anyone was bothered by this?

He is our so-called "young all-star " yet with a chance to go ahead, he comes nowhere close to the rim. At least come close! Don't have to hit it, but give it a chance at least.

He jumped off the wrong foot...had no touch on the ball. Just wasn't even close....smh
; he tried to make it..the league average on half court shots is probably 5%...
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If he's playing he should be starting, playing 30 minutes off the bench or 30 minutes starting won't make a difference as far as recovering from an injury. The last two games the team has lacked a defensive presence inside to set a tone for the game. Amir is that guy.
He hasn't been getting 30min off the bench thankfully. In fact he's averaging 22mpg this month. Obviously he's not 100%, which is why i'd just keep him coming off the bench.
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Jeff Van Gundy - the greatest mind in basketball, just referenced Noah's performance in the game tonight and also said he can't "tell you how impressed he is with Chicago, and Toronto"
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I agree - he needs to micromanage Demar in these situations a bit more. Demar is the right guy to give the ball to, but he isn't playing his regular game, he's trying to be Kobe or MJ instead of just making the right decision. Tonight it should have been a play for a drive right to the rim rather than give him the ball and let him decide what he wants to do.
That would have been more like how they won in Dallas. But they got a mismatch too i believe. You just can't expect to get those against a team like this. I really think Terrence should eventually be the guy that is more of an automatic choice for last possessions. A little more explosive, able to get closer to the rim with more height and reach, and good on pull ups. Let's hope he gets there by the playoffs. I think he still needs to get stronger and mature a bit more than we'll see by then though.
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That would have been more like how they won in Dallas. But they got a mismatch too i believe. You just can't expect to get those against a team like this. I really think Terrence should eventually be the guy that is more of an automatic choice for last possessions. A little more explosive, able to get closer to the rim with more height and reach, and good on pull ups. Let's hope he gets there by the playoffs. I think he still needs to get stronger and mature a bit more than we'll see by then though.
To much is made of the 'closer' role. Demar can be used as a decoy or somebody to make the first pass, especially with 11 seconds left. Who was the other wing on the court anyways? Probably Dunleavy? Might have been the right match-up to attack.
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amir was the best big, but TH's energy was key in keeping the game from getting out of hands at times. AJ did a fantastic job on noah and gibson and he may not have had a ton, but how many boards did noah/gibson get? He did his job in blocking people and I'm really happy he's back to good amir after the break
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This is absolutely true. When I criticize Casey, I'm not advocating letting him go. I've been thoroughly impressed with his game plans this season. But his late game play calls are too predictable. Whether it's Demar or Gay or even Bargs, there's virtually no off ball movement, no misdirection. Just ISO. As good as Casey has been, this critical part of coaching cannot be ignored.

Tonight and against Portland, Casey went to play calls that favored the defense (Portland had just stopped the dribble hand off they attempted to win the game) and they failed to even get a shot off.
no arguing from me there, although I think there was huge improvement this season, probably due to the new assistants. If only our players would make as few mistakes as the coaches do though, we'd be 5+ wins ahead of where we are now.
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