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Old 04-20-2014, 02:29 PM   #21 (permalink)
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The reason why BRK is so good is because they use Pierce at the 4 to create mismatches. If they go back to a traditional lineup they can't exploit mismatches nearly as much due to lack of spacing.

Vasquez starting over Ross would be a disaster. Did you see how many points Vasquez singlehandedly game up yesterday? Stop being so overreactionary. Who would Vasquez guard? Williams and Livingston made him their bitch yesterday.

We don't need to change our starting lineup unless Amir is injured. Some of you are so short sighted.
We could start Patterson in place of Ross. He's got the size to go against Johnson. Ross had big time jitters and got into foul trouble which eliminated being able to use his offence to force the Nets wings to exert energy on the defensive end. Then Ross could sub in for Patterson and use his offence against Brooklyns bench.
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Old 04-20-2014, 02:37 PM   #22 (permalink)
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I know that we should be the ones exploiting the mismatch with the larger front court. Just throwing out the idea. What if we run a more athletic small lineup early on when pierce is on the floor, having a Lowry Vasquez demar Ross and Val out there. With Ross on pierce and double him when in the post. Ross has held his ground against big threes in the past.

Not saying this is the end all lineup, but who knows it could lead to more breaks, out run the nets.

I understand the problems on the defence end, but It was just pathetic how amir or Patterson couldnt effectively post up or at least get pierce In foul trouble.
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Old 04-20-2014, 02:56 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Old 04-20-2014, 03:06 PM   #24 (permalink)
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I really hope they build from this loss with a completely different mindset. Throughout the season they had few losses back to back.
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Old 04-20-2014, 03:29 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Old 04-20-2014, 03:38 PM   #26 (permalink)
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We could start Patterson in place of Ross. He's got the size to go against Johnson. Ross had big time jitters and got into foul trouble which eliminated being able to use his offence to force the Nets wings to exert energy on the defensive end. Then Ross could sub in for Patterson and use his offence against Brooklyns bench.
You seriously want Patterson guarding a 2 guard when he has hardly played on the perimeter all year? Johnson is quicker than Pierce, whom Patterson clearly couldnt check yesterday, and he's more than capable of coming around down screens for wide open 3's. Patterson can't stick with Johnson on the perimeter in ISO plays, let alone running around down screens every possession.

Our starting 5 is fine. If anything, later in the 2nd quarter I'd try and put Fields at the 4 guarding Pierce and see how that plays out.
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Old 04-20-2014, 04:26 PM   #27 (permalink)
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You seriously want Patterson guarding a 2 guard when he has hardly played on the perimeter all year? Johnson is quicker than Pierce, whom Patterson clearly couldnt check yesterday, and he's more than capable of coming around down screens for wide open 3's. Patterson can't stick with Johnson on the perimeter in ISO plays, let alone running around down screens every possession.

Our starting 5 is fine. If anything, later in the 2nd quarter I'd try and put Fields at the 4 guarding Pierce and see how that plays out.
Johnson isn't playing the 2 in the Net's setup. He's the 3 and Livingston plays the 2. Patterson's problem was being on the court for the last 15 minutes straight and Pierce went off when Patterson was past gassed. Patterson communicates well on the defensive end and Casey screwed up having a gassed player trying to guard Pierce. Plus he's really screwed up the whole Fields situation to the point where he's got one of his better defenders nailed to the bench in favour of his fish addiction.
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Old 04-20-2014, 07:04 PM   #28 (permalink)
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The reason why BRK is so good is because they use Pierce at the 4 to create mismatches. If they go back to a traditional lineup they can't exploit mismatches nearly as much due to lack of spacing.

Vasquez starting over Ross would be a disaster. Did you see how many points Vasquez singlehandedly game up yesterday? Stop being so overreactionary. Who would Vasquez guard? Williams and Livingston made him their bitch yesterday.

We don't need to change our starting lineup unless Amir is injured. Some of you are so short sighted.
I am not overreactionary. Who would Vasquez guard ?
That is what Kidd wants us to indulge in, but the Nets are playing like a unite and we are totally indulged in creating mismatches, guarding this and that and as a result of that we were out of our original scheme.
I am not saying that Ross should come off the bench because of the loss, no, but it is because Ross has many flows in his game. I love Ross and I believe in him, but Ross as a player in his second year, is not mature enough to handle the pressure and the complications of the playoff that fast. He forces many issues and he tends to be a jump-shooting player. I am with Casey to start Ross during the regular season, but in the playoff, no.
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Old 04-20-2014, 07:56 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Like it or not Fields is our best defender at the 2-3 spot, he rebounds well and is active on the offense. Sure he is not a good shooter, but Salmons is shooting bricks anyway. Landry could be the difference maker when it come to stopping Pierce/Johnson.
I've said it for the longest time now, Landry Fields should be playing way more than he is!
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Old 04-20-2014, 08:06 PM   #30 (permalink)
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Old 04-20-2014, 08:08 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Like it or not Fields is our best defender at the 2-3 spot, he rebounds well and is active on the offense. Sure he is not a good shooter, but Salmons is shooting bricks anyway. Landry could be the difference maker when it come to stopping Pierce/Johnson.
I've said it for the longest time now, Landry Fields should be playing way more than he is!
ross is our best perimeter defender. case could be made for lowry too.

then there's fields. difference between fields and ross though is fields can guard bigger 3's, while ross is fine with the smaller ones and most 2's (JJ has the body of a 3, really)
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Something about Derozan's blase atittude is bothering me. The playoffs are clearly a different animal and he still acts as if it's still just some game like the regular season.



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Old 04-20-2014, 08:19 PM   #33 (permalink)
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ross is our best perimeter defender. case could be made for lowry too.

then there's fields. difference between fields and ross though is fields can guard bigger 3's, while ross is fine with the smaller ones and most 2's (JJ has the body of a 3, really)
Ross has the potential to be best defender (and he is not far off) but he still gets caught on the screens and when switching. Lowry puts his body on the line and comes up with big plays when it matters, but he is not a defensive stopper who can shut down opposing guards.
So yes imo Fields is our best perimeter defender
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Old 04-20-2014, 08:49 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Something about Derozan's blase atittude is bothering me. The playoffs are clearly a different animal and he still acts as if it's still just some game like the regular season.

If you stress about it too much or get too hyped up, you're probably going to end up failing to be honest. He knows how much this moment means, he's clearly been waiting for it more than anyone and he's trying to stay level headed.
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Old 04-20-2014, 09:22 PM   #35 (permalink)
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Yeah - the challenge is to stay loose in spite of all the hype and attention before during and after. Not getting all caught up in it is not a bad mental approach. But it's probably not easy to carry through on.
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Old 04-20-2014, 11:15 PM   #36 (permalink)
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If my eyes didn't deceive me, wasn't Patterson the one getting lit up by Pierce in the 4th? How do you guys come to the conclusion that PPat is a better option defensively on Pierce when Pierce hit 4 straight shots against him, and was 2/9 I believe going into the 4th:?

We don't need to change the starting lineup.
Because Casey's a freaking idiot and when Pierce went off, he was being guarded by Patterson, who had been on the court for FIFTEEN consecutive minutes. Idiotic coaching. Up until those last few minutes, Patterson was much more effective than Amir defensively (and especially offensively).

In the first Q, Pierce when guarded by Amir was 2 for 3 for 6 points. Patterson checked in and Pierce went 0-1 over several minutes, never getting open. Amir comes back in and contains Pierce fairly well, keeping him scoreless on three shots, but with a couple missed 3's (and assists). Patterson comes back in and again Pierce disappears for 9 minutes - 1 missed shot and no assists until the 6 minutes left mark. At this point, Patterson has been playing for 9 straight minutes. He continues for 3 more minutes to hold Pierce to 0-1 shooting, although he got a couple assists. Then with 3 minutes left, and Patman entirely gassed, Pierce goes off (4 for 4, 9 points).

So that 2-9 you are quoting is 2-6 (6 points, 2 assists in 21 minutes) for Amir, and 0-3 (0 points, 2 assists in 11 minutes) for Patterson. Decent defence for both, but Patterson's was better, and the offensive games are no contest.
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Old 04-21-2014, 12:23 AM   #37 (permalink)
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Old 04-21-2014, 11:23 AM   #39 (permalink)
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Old 04-21-2014, 11:28 AM   #40 (permalink)
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If Casey was smart he would put Patterson in the starting lineup.

Patterson > Amir... someone convince me otherwise.
You don't switch the entire seasons starting lineup after one playoff game, where Amir barely played anyway. Did he get injured? I saw Patterson fall awkwardly too and stop playing well after that dunk. That being said, I would't mind Patterson playing more than Amir, but no need to start. Id rather match small ball and have Fields on Pierce.
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