Feshuck: Good Chance Triano Will Be Back Next Year
Old 03-11-2009, 09:07 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Triano, think about it, has to make daily attempts at explaining a dud of a campaign without trashing the wafer-thin roster that has been assembled by Bryan Colangelo, the resident president and general manager. Repeatedly suggesting that a lack of talent is at the heart of these past couple of years of woe, after all, is one of the key reasons a truth teller named Sam Mitchell got a paid vacation after 17 games. Unlike Mitchell, Triano doesn't have a multi-million-dollar golden handshake awaiting him if he loses his gig. He has to remain in Colangelo's favour if there is any chance of him retaining the job come autumn (and there is, make no mistake, a good chance that he will).
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I would be shocked if Jay came back as a coach. He is a nice guy and I would welcome him back as an assistant, but what has Jay done to be considered to be the coach next year.
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Old 03-11-2009, 09:12 AM   #2 (permalink)
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BC will get another coach
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Old 03-11-2009, 09:32 AM   #3 (permalink)
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If Triano returns as coach it's an indictment of Bryan Colangelo and his ego.
It'll only be because he's the GM's lapdog. We've witnessed the results of BC's coaching skills thus far. Who's idea was it to put Andrea at the three again?

The only positives to come out of JT's tenure are: the emergence of Bargnani and Joey Graham. I'm not even convinced those players wouldn't have improved just as dramatically under Alex English or anyone else. It's probably got less to do with Triano's promotion then just getting rid of Sam.

I'm sure Triano is a good guy and the players like him but he's clearly out of his depth. The Raptors desperately need a forceful personality with a clear and defined philosophy on the game. As well as the technical prowess to implement some effective systems to get the most out of a deficient roster.

Colangelo had better identify the right candidate, hire the guy, and then go about patching the gaping holes in the line-up.
Please do the right thing. Stay upstairs and out of the coaches ear Bryan!
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BC there are some good assistants in the league

Tim Grgurich, Denver

A long-time coach in both college and the pros, Grguric is widely known across the league as one of the best individual workout guys in the business. He holds a camp every summer for young players to help get them used to the vigorous routine of an NBA practice schedule. He gives every player plenty of individual face time, and his camp is so good that some teams send their coaching staffs to learn, too. Even head coaches and general managers occasionally pop in to see what's going on.

Grguric's first individual case was a young Gary Payton, who he worked with summers in Oakland. In time, that spread to players like Tim Hardaway, Chris Mullin, and Shawn Kemp as well. From there he's only gotten more and more popular with young players, and there's no one in the NBA who doesn't respect the guy for his development of burgeoning stars.

uses the Amoeba Defense developed when he was a Pitt assistant under Jerry Tarkanian

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Mike Budenholzer, San Antonio

To get a sense of how successful Budenholzer has been as an assistant coach, just know that he came into San Antonio the same year Greg Popovich did. All those rings Pop's got, Budenholzer's got, too.

Budenholzer is an offensive guy, known especially for running offenses in the last two minutes of a quarter. He makes his rounds to summer camps and training sessions working on a number of things, but as the heir apparent to the San Antonio Spurs' coaching throne there's no question where he sits in the hierarchy of the league's top assistants.

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Tyrone Corbin, Utah

Entering his fifth year on the Utah bench after a 15-year playing career, Corbin has played a key role in the development of the Jazz's frontcourt, including All-Stars Carlos Boozer and Mehmet Okur
He was endorsed recently by former NBA star Reggie Miller and ex-NBA coach Doug Collins as a rising star in the coaching ranks.

or

Elston Turner, Houston

He served as Adelman's chief game strategist and organized the Rockets' game plans during the 2008 playoffs. A tenacious defender in eight seasons as a player, Turner is considered a strong communicator who has embraced Adelman's read-and-react offensive system.

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Old 03-11-2009, 12:20 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I would not be shocked. The guy does not have a history of going out and getting a coach. And there are pros to that as well as cons. It shows some stability within the franchise and a willingness to remain patient. But at the same time it seems that sort of approach would have been more applicable at the start of December moreso than now.
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I can't fathom a circumstance in which Triano, coaching as he is now, should remain head coach next year. Which means, based on how this season has gone, that he probably will remain in that position.
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Old 03-11-2009, 12:49 PM   #7 (permalink)
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This is sickening to me.

Go and get an experienced proven coach. Flip Saunders is available. So what if he hasnt won a conference finals game yet? Hes a damn good coach and we arent getting there for a while anyway.

I wouldnt even mind if he got the Russian coach because even though he hasnt been in the NBA what I've heard about him in terms of his x's and o's and how he goes about running his team is beautiful. He really isnt a rookie head coach by definition, thus I dont consider him an experiment.

No more experiments with guys like Mitchell and Triano. We need a REAL coach. This offseason is BC's everything, he better not start it off by re signing Triano.
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Old 03-11-2009, 12:57 PM   #8 (permalink)
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No more experiments with guys like Mitchell and Triano. We need a REAL coach.
a 47-35, 41-41, or even an 8-9 record look like miracles for this squad now. I think Mitchell did a decent job here. I think phoenix would be in the playoffs now if they had him.
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lol ... can't you see is all about money? In this economy, unless Mitchell gets a new job (very unlikely, since probably only a head coach job would pay him enough so he can forego 4/yr), it's not likely MLSE will spend shitload of money on a top coach (assuming a top coach wants to come here until Bosh decides to stick for another contract).

The only low cost alternative is to go after european based coaches, which might be too risky even for a guy like bryan (in cb4's contract year).
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Old 03-11-2009, 01:37 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Triano is history. Colangelo has to face the choice right now and start thinking about it: he can go left and keep him or he can do what's right.
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Old 03-11-2009, 01:41 PM   #11 (permalink)
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smitch will def get a new contract come next year, book it!

the economy hasnt affected mlse as much as other ownership either, infact baseball had its most successful year ever last year.
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Old 03-11-2009, 01:44 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I wouldnt be shocked either but i would definetly be disappointed if Jay was the coach next year. I dont think he's done anything with the team, based on results and performance, to merit another opportunity to continue as coach. The team is so disjointed right now that a fresh start is needed, I feel bad for Jay i do think he could be a good coach with the right mix of guys, unfortunatley not the group right now.
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a 47-35, 41-41, or even an 8-9 record look like miracles for this squad now. I think Mitchell did a decent job here. I think phoenix would be in the playoffs now if they had him.
Its amazing how quickly people forget once someone leaves.

Smitch wouldnt get an injury riddled, identity less suns team in the playoffs. Hes the same kind of coach as Porter. Preach preach preach nothing to ever back it up in terms of a system on either side of the ball.
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exactly eoraptor. exactly.

fact is we look worse now than we ever have under Sam.

You know... i don't absolutely hate the idea of Jay coming back... i just want whatever happens to be something that Colangelo totally believes in 100%.

no wait...i absoultely hate the idea of jay being back next year.
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Question:
Does BC bring in a coach to fit the current group of players on the roster (with only minor changes)?
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Hire the best coach available and change the personnel to fit that coach's style?
Or
Can he kill two birds with one stone?
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Feschuck is less reliable then Doug Smith. This is Brian Colangelo's chance to bring in his own coach apart from someone that was already in the org. when he took the job. I'll be shocked and extremely disapointed if he keeps Triano as coach. Especially if Sam gets another coaching job, which i'm predicting he will.
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Does BC bring in a coach to fit the current group of players on the roster (with only minor changes)?
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Hire the best coach available and change the personnel to fit that coach's style?
Or
Can he kill two birds with one stone?
In the words of napoleon Dynamite, Colangelo should "follow his heart".



Honestly, he should get the coach he wants the most. that's it. A good coach will make the most of the players he has. also, there is a big air of uncertainty about this team anyways, meaning a few new faces are almost gauranteed for next year. Hire the coach first, and then you'll know what sort of players that coach wants for the new system.
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Hire the coach first, and then you'll know what sort of players that coach wants for the new system.
I agree. Decide on a coach, and then you know what type of team/players to surround him with based on his coaching style.
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NOOOOOOOOOO BC please do the right thing and bring in a new coach. PLEASE
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I love how in the article Triano makes out like seeing more losses than just about any other human over the last 15 years, somehow provides him with a great basis to coach.

That's just sad.

If BC builds a team around him does it look like the complete opposite of all the losing teams he has helped coach and cover in the media? And what would that look like exactly?
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