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Benzo 07-21-2008 03:55 PM

FA's to Europe
 
Now that Boki has gone, and others seem poised to follow with the relentless offers from clubs overseas.

As a "basketball" fan, does this please you....or displease you?...

...and why.

Claudius 07-21-2008 03:56 PM

See my answer in the childress thread.

Benzo 07-21-2008 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Claudius (Post 44882)
See my answer in the childress thread.

I did it, was good...and promted my poll.

Do a cut and paste job here, so it doesnt get lost.

jeffb 07-21-2008 04:04 PM

"Boki" sucked anyway.For the most part the only players that will leave the NBA and get more money in Europe are bench players.Big name players will always get their money here.

Benzo 07-21-2008 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by jeffb (Post 44889)
"Boki" sucked anyway.For the most part the only players that will leave the NBA and get more money in Europe are bench players.Big name players will always get their money here.

The NHL thought the same thing once.

Snooch 07-21-2008 04:13 PM

1 vote for I Love Benzo....

Vote for Yourself?

jumplvlan23 07-21-2008 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Benzo (Post 44890)
The NHL thought the same thing once.

And now look at the NHL.... exactly why it isn't such a great thing that NBA talent is leaving the NBA. Personally I don't really care if bench warmers and players are leaving, because their talent can easily be replaced. Once a star leaves, then we have a problem...

However, I think this may only be temporary, because of the weak American dollar. Once the dollar rises back to normal, players may not be so adamant about leaving. It always comes down to money. The Euro is much stronger than the American dollar.

As for kids skipping college to play overseas, so be it. I wouldn't want the NBA to retract its minimum age requirement just so that these kids don't end up in Europe. It'd be the wrong thing to do. The NBA has done its part in trying to let those play basketball with an education to fall back on if it doesn't work out. Too many high school players thought they could make it big in the NBA by skipping college, and they didn't succeed. The NBA has done its part in trying to avoid that, and now its up to the individual to make a decision about college or playing overseas. There is nothing the NBA can do about that.

Benzo 07-21-2008 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by SnoochieBoochie (Post 44896)
1 vote for I Love Benzo....

Vote for Yourself?

Never....

Snooch 07-21-2008 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Benzo (Post 44921)
Never....

why not, I would...

2 votes Benzo!

Benzo 07-21-2008 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by SnoochieBoochie (Post 44922)
why not, I would...

2 votes Benzo!

If you accually click on the numbers you can see who voted...

Thanks Doc...Mike.

Adequate Swag 07-21-2008 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by jeffb (Post 44889)
"Boki" sucked anyway.For the most part the only players that will leave the NBA and get more money in Europe are bench players.Big name players will always get their money here.

But what about guys just below "big name"?

Guys who should get more than the MLE, but can't because of the cap situation of most teams in the league?

The market for those guys becomes smaller as teams load up with max contracts and then try and fill holes using minimum contracts and exceptions.

But as of late, those guys can get star player money in Europe.

Dywer's Ball Don't Lie post from this morning on this topic was on point, in my opinion.

I would say its a good thing in general. A higher talent level overseas can't hurt basketball development on the whole over there, and maybe it forces the NBA to look into some issues regarding the cap structure.

And I don't know how any Raptors fan can say Boki sucked. He came to play against Toronto, anyway.

Ball Don't Lie 07-21-2008 04:53 PM

Boki did suck, he had one and a half good seasons. He was soft and a product of Kidd. Before Kidd he was an 11th man that couldnt play any defence and didnt rebound, then with Kidd he was a 7th man who couldnt play any defence and didnt rebound but could hit open shots created for him. He doesnt wanna play against the best compettition in the world because of a few couple more millions that he doesnt even deserve ? Whatever, have fun in Europe. Keep overpaying the NBA scrubs European teams.

the_ raps_analyst 07-21-2008 06:05 PM

most guys that go to euro to play are pretty shit and the main thing they do is shoot threes. Also the fact that they are soft makes them a lot worse.

Benzo 07-21-2008 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by the_ raps_analyst (Post 44958)
most guys that go to euro to play are pretty shit and the main thing they do is shoot threes. Also the fact that they are soft makes them a lot worse.

:bored:

Belsius 07-21-2008 07:15 PM

double :bored:

'trane 07-21-2008 07:22 PM

triple :bored:

Adequate Swag 07-21-2008 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the_ raps_analyst (Post 44958)
most guys that go to euro to play are pretty shit and the main thing they do is shoot threes. Also the fact that they are soft makes them a lot worse.

Not gonna let stupid things like recent history or factual information stand in the way of some good old fashioned ignorance huh?

Good for you!

the_ raps_analyst 07-21-2008 08:01 PM

my bad i wasnt trying to be ignorant. I apologize if i offended anybody.

Belsius 07-21-2008 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by the_ raps_analyst (Post 44978)
my bad i wasnt trying to be ignorant. I apologize if i offended anybody.

No worries, an opinion is an opinion, just try to be more insightful and subtle ;)

LX 07-21-2008 09:36 PM

As a baketball fan I like basketball wherever it is played, and the fact that teams can be competitive all over the place makes me happy enough. To me it only strengthens the game. I never thought much of the idea of international leagues being like minor league outposts for the NBA. If that were to happen, then it might grow the NBA game for some time, but long-term it could just lower interest in most of the rest of the world outside of a few pockets here and there. As things stand this game is starting to rival football in it's global appeal.


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