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Old 03-27-2008, 09:21 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Hey Swan you are a proud supporter of TJ. The guy has game but lacks comunication skills. TJ is a selfish minded individual. He will never be considered a good role model for children. His attitude or lack of is his downfall. Can you see TJ doing what Jose just did by going to management to make the change to help TJ play better ? Swan please answer this question ? After you answer the question to your self ask your self why that answer ? You should then realize why TJ is disliked.
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Old 03-27-2008, 09:23 AM   #22 (permalink)
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I urge members not to formulate opinions on who these players are as people by their interviews with the media...
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Uhhh, so what else am i supposed to base my opinion on?

If i player says something over and over again, then i will base an opinion on how i feel about said player.

Look, i don't think TJ is a bad guy. I explicitely said I think he's misunderstood.

but shit, he really should improve his PR. it's really that simple. and when you compare him to Jose, who is such a fantastic "team first" guy in spades, then ya - TJ's public perception may take a bit of a hit. Dude's in the NBA, it just comes with the territory.
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MeJ takes one step forward and two steps back.

I also heard Jones and Smith talking on the postgame that they were feeding MeJ questions to get him to say something positive about Jose. He wouldnt bite. It was all about TJ.

I hope Calderon cant read english. If we lose his head, this season is over.
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Old 03-27-2008, 10:07 AM   #24 (permalink)
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Maybe it's just me, but i find your hate on for TJ a little, let's say, overly agressive Raptorman.
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Old 03-27-2008, 10:09 AM   #25 (permalink)
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I speak regularily with a guy on the other board that knows Tj personally.

I get my perspective from him.

I know where his head is at.
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Old 03-27-2008, 10:09 AM   #26 (permalink)
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Difference between Jose and TJ can be summarized below:

"I went to (coach Sam Mitchell) because I thought we needed to change something because something wasn't working," said Calderon, who had 13 points and four assists in 27 minutes. "I think it's a team thing, we needed something. We didn't know exactly what was the problem and we still don't know if it is this, but the good news is we won, it's good for the Raptors, good for the team and that's what we have to think all the time."

I don't think it's because of the way anyone has been playing,” Ford said before last night’s game. “Jose has been great as a starter, same thing with Bargnani. I guess this is the time to start to search, try to find some type of momentum, something that works, and I think that's what this is all about.”

There was another quote how TJ said Jose was growing as a player by making this move. I can't find it but I find it ironic that TJ called Jose's move a "growing" experience so WTF does that make TJ's transition? The "ungrowing".
If the last bit is true, westbeach, then I can only say TJ has some arrogant odacity to actually say, that. How dare he talk like he's some "Ace Veteran" when he can't even make the bench players look good. I mean if he's supposed to be a premiere starting PG it should be no problem for him to make the 2nd unit play (more obviously) better by comparison.

Calderon can make both units play better, so the same is expected of Ford. It's that simple. And if Ford can't do that, then the fans can boo him as much as they want. It's a democracy.

Fans probably booed because of how Ford (did not) earn the starting role. Lucky for him Calderon came from a more socialist environment, and made the team the priority, and was willing to come off the bench. But North America is very strongly capitalistic and most players would never do what Calderon did, and fans and coaches always believe in rewarding (playing) those that work for it. That's why fans (have a right to) boo.
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Old 03-27-2008, 11:37 AM   #27 (permalink)
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Hey Swan you are a proud supporter of TJ. The guy has game but lacks comunication skills. TJ is a selfish minded individual. He will never be considered a good role model for children. His attitude or lack of is his downfall. Can you see TJ doing what Jose just did by going to management to make the change to help TJ play better ? Swan please answer this question ? After you answer the question to your self ask your self why that answer ? You should then realize why TJ is disliked.
Yes he did. When he came back he went to management/coach and said, Jose's playing great ball, he should keep starting. There's your answer.

After that i don't care if you or anyone else dislikes him... i only defend unfair criticism..like saying he's not a good person based on his interviews with the media or blaming him for lossses when there are other team factors that are more applicable.
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Old 03-27-2008, 11:39 AM   #28 (permalink)
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Uhhh, so what else am i supposed to base my opinion on?

If i player says something over and over again, then i will base an opinion on how i feel about said player.

Look, i don't think TJ is a bad guy. I explicitely said I think he's misunderstood.

but shit, he really should improve his PR. it's really that simple. and when you compare him to Jose, who is such a fantastic "team first" guy in spades, then ya - TJ's public perception may take a bit of a hit. Dude's in the NBA, it just comes with the territory.
You just have to live with the fact you may never know TJ as a person and really know what he's like.

Put it this way..if you got arrested and you needed someone to be a character witness in your defense, woudl you think anyone from RaptorsForum could adequately defend you and your personality based on reading your posts for the past few months or would you think one of your family or friends that 'know' you would be better? That's all i'm saying.

If people really think PR is important then okay.. i guess he isnt' at the top of the totum pole, nor is Sam.

Personally i care little if he's helping my team win on the court and being a good person in the community
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Old 03-27-2008, 11:43 AM   #29 (permalink)
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that's cool and i respect your opinion, SWAN.

All i'm saying is that of course people are going to base opinions on others based on what they say in interviews and how they answer questions. Some people may care more than others about the personalities of players.
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Old 03-27-2008, 11:47 AM   #30 (permalink)
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that's cool and i respect your opinion, SWAN.

All i'm saying is that of course people are going to base opinions on others based on what they say in interviews and how they answer questions. Some people may care more than others about the personalities of players.
That's fine if they care, i'm just asking those that care not to judge someone's personality only by their media persona...it's not fair. I wouldn't want it done to me. Saying Tj is a selfish person because he has crappy PR is not a very objective argument IMO.

Remember when Pape Sow got hurt and TJ went to visit him before he even met him in the hospital to be with and support him? Does that sound like the actions of a selfish person? Not to me.

Making a case that a guy plays 'me first' on the court is one thing, but to call him a selfish person and worse based on his media interviews isnt' very fair in my opinion.
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Old 03-27-2008, 11:53 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Now some of you are claiming that Jose played better than TJ yesterday? Jose homerism at its finest. The game was won in the 3rd when TJ obliterated the Detroit defence with his penetration and was extremely active on defence as well.
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Old 03-27-2008, 11:57 AM   #32 (permalink)
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Now some of you are claiming that Jose played better than TJ yesterday? Jose homerism at its finest. The game was won in the 3rd when TJ obliterated the Detroit defence with his penetration and was extremely active on defence as well.
Actually, the game was won by the front court players if you ask me. Good interior defense and good rebounding.

Jose and TJ both got smoked by Chauncey and Stuckley (SP).
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Old 03-27-2008, 11:59 AM   #33 (permalink)
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Rasho was obviously huge, but our offence was in the muck until about mid 3rd when one of our PGs finally decided to drive to the basket, then Jose followed suit, that was the turning point IMO. The defence was there all night, but we dont win without that surge to pull far enough away that they couldnt catch up,.
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Old 03-27-2008, 12:03 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Rasho was obviously huge, but our offence was in the muck until about mid 3rd when one of our PGs finally decided to drive to the basket, then Jose followed suit, that was the turning point IMO. The defence was there all night, but we dont win without that surge to pull far enough away that they couldnt catch up,.
seriously, do u coach memphis in ncaa? cuz any1 that disagrees with u doesnt know basketball!!!
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Old 03-27-2008, 12:09 PM   #35 (permalink)
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seriously, do u coach memphis in ncaa? cuz any1 that disagrees with u doesnt know basketball!!!
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Old 03-27-2008, 12:20 PM   #36 (permalink)
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Old 03-27-2008, 12:28 PM   #37 (permalink)
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Old 03-27-2008, 12:29 PM   #38 (permalink)
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a jew joke?
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Old 03-27-2008, 12:31 PM   #39 (permalink)
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thats not a jew joke, he sent me a link cuz he thinks i love the cav's, so i sent him a link since he is a jewish basketball all knowledgeable God!! Nothing more, nothing less.
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Old 03-27-2008, 12:36 PM   #40 (permalink)
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Hey pimpry, way to contribute to a pretty good discussion by bringing it down to a nice level of irrelevance.

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