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jeffb 02-16-2011 03:38 PM

ESPN: Top 20 Rooks/Sophs
 
1. Blake Griffin, Clippers
2. Stephen Curry, Warriors
3. DeJuan Blair, Spurs
4. Serge Ibaka, Thunder
5. Jrue Holiday, 76ers
6. Darren Collison, Pacers
7. Ty Lawson, Nuggets
8. Wesley Matthews, Trail Blazers
9. John Wall, Wizards
10. DeMarcus Cousins, Kings
11. Tyreke Evans, Kings
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12. DeMar DeRozan, Raptors
As a starting 2-guard in the NBA, DeRozan still needs to improve in a lot of areas -- namely the 3-ball -- but watching the Raptors lately is basically watching the DeMar DeRozan Show. He is their most dynamic young player and, since December, has been their most productive and consistent scorer after Andrea Bargnani.
DeRozan has become lethal as a shooter off curls and is attacking the rim more when closely guarded on the perimeter. He pairs nicely with Ed Davis in Toronto as consecutive first-round picks who look like core guys going forward.

13. Landry Fields, Knicks
14. Greg Monroe, Pistons
15. James Harden, Thunder
16. Taj Gibson, Bulls
17. Gary Neal, Spurs
18. Brandon Jennings, Bucks
19. Reggie Williams, Warriors
20. Paul George, Pacers

Fine guys to watch- Sam Young, Wesley Johnson, Evan Turner,Derrick Favors,Marcus Thornton




NBA: Top 20 rookies and sophs combined - ESPN

DonMughal 02-16-2011 03:49 PM

Wow, John Wall #9. He's really cooled off since that hot start he had in the beginning of the season. You don't here a lot of talk about him anymore.

ha123 02-16-2011 03:50 PM

Damn thats actually pretty high. Right below tyreke evans. In the next year or so I hope he makes it to top 5 on that list.

Ex2k 02-16-2011 03:57 PM

Evan Turner the #2 pick didnt even make the list :dead:

Dark Knight 02-16-2011 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Ex2k (Post 509180)
Evan Turner the #2 pick didnt even make the list :dead:

Hasheem Thabeet, also a #2 pick, didn't make the list either.

Draft position doesn't mean that player is necessarily better than his peers...

carp 02-16-2011 04:08 PM

I think some of those selections have been overly impacted by fast starts, like Fields and Neal, and I'd question the criteria that was employed

Ex2k 02-16-2011 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark Knight (Post 509186)
Hasheem Thabeet, also a #2 pick, didn't make the list either.

Draft position doesn't mean that player is necessarily better than his peers...

True, but there was alot of discussion going on before that draft about if Turner may possibly go #1 over Wall...

powerfulpanda 02-16-2011 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Ex2k (Post 509191)
True, but there was alot of discussion going on before that draft about if Turner may possibly go #1 over Wall...

ummm no there wasn't.....
wall was the consensus number 1. everyone knew he was going number 1. it was one of those years where who was going to be taken at 1 was obvious like lbj, griffin, etc

jrob23 02-16-2011 04:23 PM

we need to acquire Paul George i really think he will develop into a Rudy Gay caliber of player within the upcoming seasons

carp 02-16-2011 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by powerfulpanda (Post 509198)
ummm no there wasn't.....
wall was the consensus number 1. everyone knew he was going number 1. it was one of those years where who was going to be taken at 1 was obvious like lbj, griffin, etc

wrong... there was alot of discussion about Turner going number one, even if many doubted they would pass on Wall.

Superjudge 02-16-2011 04:29 PM

Looks like little Stevey C is getting his props now.

I wanted him!

powerfulpanda 02-16-2011 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by carp (Post 509205)
wrong... there was alot of discussion about Turner going number one, even if many doubted they would pass on Wall.

really?? can anyone else back this up? i may be wrong then. but i just remember so much wall hype...."franchise pg" "once every 10 year pg" etc etc. and he was number 1 across all draft boards...

carp 02-16-2011 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by powerfulpanda (Post 509214)
really?? can anyone else back this up? i may be wrong then. but i just remember so much wall hype...."franchise pg" "once every 10 year pg" etc etc. and he was number 1 across all draft boards...

Wall was the favourite, but it wasn't that Wall was seen as a can't miss pick like Griffin was. There were many questions about his game, but Turner and even Cousins were getting some love as top choices.

RaptorsandBuckeye FaN 02-16-2011 04:44 PM

Carp is right. I'll put it this way if u ask 10 people who should have been the #1 pick 8 said wall 2-3 others said turner.

Wall was #1 to many but some people threw turner name out there.

Claudius 02-16-2011 05:31 PM

If Paul George continues to get PT, he'll move up that list. Good player.

MISAM38 02-16-2011 05:31 PM

Entering the league Wall was seen as one of the best and theyre were GM surveys saying he was in the top 5 best pgs b4 he even played a game. He was given wayyyyyy more hype than Griffin. He was overhyped and then he got off a good start then injuries, and now he isnt doin anythin. He kinda reminds of Brandon Jennings rookie season last year. He scored 55 pts against GSW, then he didnt do much, till playoffs when he exploded. The Hawks had no answer.

MISAM38 02-16-2011 05:32 PM

Ty Lawson over Demar????? No way!

MISAM38 02-16-2011 05:34 PM

B4 the draft, i went through a few mock drafts, and i dont recall seeing Turner ever gettin picked over Wall. Wall was #1 since the start. I still think Philly should have went With Derrick Favors. They have wayy too many guards over there.

Claudius 02-16-2011 05:34 PM

Wall will be just fine. Injuries have hurt him more than anything. Also, Turner will be fine. When he plays with confidence he's a real nice player. He's also playing in a nice situation, where it looks like they'll be going to the playoffs.

He'll be 'up' on some lists next year. Also, I just want to say the last few years, some people have stated how 'weak' the past drafts have been (hear that every year), but there's some real nice players on that top 20 list.

Just shows you how valuable drafts are.

Claudius 02-16-2011 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by MISAM38 (Post 509254)
Ty Lawson over Demar????? No way!

Why not? Lawson has been a really good pg for them and has arguably made Billups expendable.

DeMar has had 2 solid months in his career. We're over-hyping our own players.


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