ESPN: Raptors Targeting Iguodala along with Gay

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Old 06-06-2012, 08:18 PM   #1 (permalink)
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The Toronto Raptors know exactly what they want out of the 2012 NBA draft:

An established, athletic wing man.

And that's why the Raptors have already made it known to rival teams that their lottery pick on June 28 -- No. 8 overall -- is available to a trade partner that can provide the elite small forward they seek, according to sources close to the situation.

With a slew of league execs having converged on Chicago this week for the NBA's annual pre-draft camp, sources told ESPN.com that the Raptors have at least two known trade targets: Memphis swingman Rudy Gay and Philadelphia's Andre Iguodala.

The Raptors, sources said, are prepared to part with their lottery pick in this month's draft at least partly because they have a lottery pick on the way. Lithuanian star Jonas Valanciunas, selected No. 5 overall by Toronto in the 2011 draft, is poised to join the Raptors next season after the young 7-footer quickly established himself as one of the most exciting big men in Europe.

Yet it remains to be seen whether Toronto can manufacture the other assets needed to go with the No. 8 to tempt Memphis or Philly or any other team that surfaces with a top swingman available. Veteran point guard Jose Calderon (who possesses an expiring contract in 2012-13) and young big man Ed Davis are among the players that the Raptors would conceivably be willing to put into a trade package.

As ESPN.com reported Sunday, Toronto also plans to be a determined suitor in free agency for Phoenix Suns point guard Steve Nash, hoping to bring Canada's former Olympic basketball captain and newly installed general manager of the senior national team back to home soil.

But if the Raptors decide, in the end, not to make a draft-night deal and keep the pick, they're expected to focus on the top guards that could be available at No. 8. Sources say that Toronto is intrigued by Syracuse's Dion Walters, UConn's Jeremy Lamb and Weber State's Damian Lillard.

Sources: Raptors shopping pick for forward - TrueHoop Blog - ESPN
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Old 06-06-2012, 08:21 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Definitely Iguodala. He provides more utility than Gay imo.

We need the defense/play making over the scoring.
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Old 06-06-2012, 08:24 PM   #3 (permalink)
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If they get Gay they might need to trade Bargnani, and there needs to be other pieces in the mix. If they get Iguodala, they might get a guy that is a good fit with Bargnani.

The bigger picture is more important than the individual players involved. I'd be intrigued with how everything fell into place with either acquisition, and would have emotional pros and cons for each.
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Assuming the same assets have to head out to get either one, Iggy all the way. More financial flexibility, and frankly the player I like more. But either would be good.
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how many years does brand have left on his contract? It may be possible to entice them to trade iggy by taking on brand, if he only has one year left. We'd have to send a ton of players back though without eating into our cap space
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expiring 18 million next season.

i think LX nailed it on which direction we'll be looking at with each player.
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I want to be wrong about this but I doubt Philly has any interest in moving Iguodala. The time to make a move for him was last summer. The 76ers current core has not reached its plateau, in my opinion. And with Brand coming off the books soon, they will have the ability to bring in another front court piece. Why would they move Iggy? Yeah, yeah, they have Turner. But Turner is still a bit inconsistent, and keeping both makes them a very deep team, which is one of their advantages over opponents.

The Grizzlies moving Rudy makes some sense, for several reasons. Philly moving Iggy...not so much.
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I want to be wrong about this but I doubt Philly has any interest in moving Iguodala. The time to make a move for him was last summer. The 76ers current core has not reached its plateau, in my opinion. And with Brand coming off the books soon, they will have the ability to bring in another front court piece. Why would they move Iggy? Yeah, yeah, they have Turner. But Turner is still a bit inconsistent, and keeping both makes them a very deep team, which is one of their advantages over opponents.

The Grizzlies moving Rudy makes some sense, for several reasons. Philly moving Iggy...not so much.
Agreed, This is a tough call. But I'd rather have Iggy, he would fit perfect in our system.
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I remember last season many here ripping Iguodala because he wasn't a leader and had a bad atittude. I don't get the love for this guy all of a sudden. Don't get me wrong, i like his defense and assists but has his atittude issues been put behind him?

Anyway, here is what is owed to each player:

Iggy- 2yrs/30.6Mil (14.7Mil, 15.9Mil)

Gay- 3yrs/53.5Mil (16.4Mil, 17.8Mil, 19.3Mil)

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I remember last season many here ripping Iguodala because he wasn't a leader and had a bad atittude. I don't get the love for this guy all of a sudden. Don't get me wrong, i like his defense and assists but has his atittude issues been put behind him?

Anyway, here is what is owed to each player:

Iggy- 2yrs/30.6Mil (14.7Mil, 15.9Mil)

Gay- 3yrs/53.5Mil (16.4Mil, 17.8Mil, 19.3Mil)
I think Gay is the better pick up no matter what.
He has yet to reach his full potential & that is well known. & the fact that he is younger than Iggy makes way more sense for a max player going foward...
I'm actually surprised there is even a debate?
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I think Gay is the better pick up no matter what.
He has yet to reach his full potential & that is well known. & the fact that he is younger than Iggy makes way more sense for a max player going foward...
I'm actually surprised there is even a debate?
Its because of Iggy's defense, and everyone has been brainwased by DC in a good way
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Some guy on a Philly board apparently knows someone in their org:

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i asked today and was told Barngani wasnt available to us.

they offered #8, Calderon and davis for Iguodala and #15.

we said we would get back to them later

in such a move Jrue would play the 2. I am assuming Turner plays the 3. They dont seem inclined to move him.

Just weighing our options.
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If that the trade, sign me up!
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Old 06-06-2012, 09:58 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Yep, if that's the deal and it can be done, giddy up!!

Maybe that's when they take Waiters @ #15.

Nash
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Bench: Amir, JJ, Kleiza, Gray?, Waiters, PG?, AA, Uzoh? + minor signing(s)
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Yep, if that's the deal and it can be done, giddy up!!

Maybe that's when they take Waiters @ #15.

Nash
DD
Iggy
Bargs
Val

Bench: Amir, JJ, Kleiza, Gray?, Waiters, PG?, AA, Uzoh? + minor signing(s)
Don't forget Anderson could be a part of the equation?
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Don't forget Anderson could be a part of the equation?
That's what the AA stands for
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I think Gay is the better pick up no matter what.
He has yet to reach his full potential & that is well known.
You mean people say he has not reached his full potential. That doesn't make it a fact. Given that his production has remained consistently the same for the past 5 years, I'd say there is good reason to believe he is at his ceiling. That's not all bad though, since he produces well. But I wouldn't try to sell people on the "he hasn't reached his potential" point. What you see now is likely all you'll get: 19/6

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& the fact that he is younger than Iggy makes way more sense for a max player going foward...
Neither should be making the max. And seriously, age is not an issue. Iggy is only 28. Rudy will be 26 when the season starts.

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If you can't see why there is a legit debate, that says more about you than it does about other posters.
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You mean people say he has not reached his full potential. That doesn't make it a fact. Given that his production has remained consistently the same for the past 5 years, I'd say there is good reason to believe he is at his ceiling. That's not all bad though, since he produces well. But I wouldn't try to sell people on the "he hasn't reached his potential" point. What you see now is likely all you'll get: 19/6
As Memphis has continued to add talent he continues to give the same production tells me he's actually improved.
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I wish this poll was public. It would be interesting to know.
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As Memphis has continued to add talent he continues to give the same production tells me he's actually improved.
He gets the same amount of touches, dude. Usage rate is pretty consistent too. It's not like they're taking the ball away. So I'm not sure how you came to that conclusion. As Memphis added frontcourt talent, they also moved Mayo to the bench which meant Rudy still got a healthy portion of perimeter touches.
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