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Old 08-14-2013, 01:11 PM   #61 (permalink)
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I think Toronto will win more than ESPN has predicted with 36 but finish in one less spot at 11th. To me the East has improved since last season and it will take more than 41 wins to make the playoffs.
Agreed.... I think some overvalue our mediocrity and undervalue similar talent on other teams. Boston will compete with us, even with Rondo hurt. Milwaukee is likely better than us, Detroit too now.... Cleveland will probably also be.... and we know Atlanta is.
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Agreed.... I think some overvalue our mediocrity and undervalue similar talent on other teams. Boston will compete with us, even with Rondo hurt. Milwaukee is likely better than us, Detroit too now.... Cleveland will probably also be.... and we know Atlanta is.
We always overvalue our team. I think we have the talent to be 7th-10th. 7th if we start strong and if healthy, 10th even without any moves or tanking. I just feel there are too many question marks at this point.
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Agreed.... I think some overvalue our mediocrity and undervalue similar talent on other teams. Boston will compete with us, even with Rondo hurt. Milwaukee is likely better than us, Detroit too now.... Cleveland will probably also be.... and we know Atlanta is.
Boston,they still have some players on their team and could win the same amount as Toronto but finish ahead because of the head to head record. Teams in the AD like to take games off against weaker opponents.

I also like Orlando. People forget they get off to a nice start and we're in playoff contention early on last season. A full year with young talent like T.Harris,V. Oladipo & N.Vucevic,they'll surpise people imo. Still got experienced players like Affalo,Davis and Nelson too.
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Agreed.... I think some overvalue our mediocrity and undervalue similar talent on other teams. Boston will compete with us, even with Rondo hurt. Milwaukee is likely better than us, Detroit too now.... Cleveland will probably also be.... and we know Atlanta is.
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We always overvalue our team. I think we have the talent to be 7th-10th. 7th if we start strong and if healthy, 10th even without any moves or tanking. I just feel there are too many question marks at this point.
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Boston,they still have some players on their team and could win the same amount as Toronto but finish ahead because of the head to head record. Teams in the AD like to take games off against weaker opponents.

I also like Orlando. People forget they get off to a nice start and we're in playoff contention early on last season. A full year with young talent like T.Harris,V. Oladipo & N.Vucevic,they'll surpise people imo. Still got experienced players like Affalo,Davis and Nelson too.
Come on guys. Raps made some moves and being healthy can do pretty well while other teams have made no improvements
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We always overvalue our team.
Not really... we always just overestimate one way or the other. And after a disappointing season the pendulum has swung to the other side and now everyone just undervalues everything.
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Come on guys. Raps made some moves and being healthy can do pretty well while other teams have made no improvements
Also other teams can't remain healthy. Only us.
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Not really... we always just overestimate one way or the other. And after a disappointing season the pendulum has swung to the other side and now everyone just undervalues everything.
Or maybe some are being realistic and others are being overly optimistic as usual.
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Also other teams can't remain healthy. Only us.
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Or maybe some are being realistic and others are being overly optimistic as usual.
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Or maybe some are being realistic and others are being overly optimistic as usual.
Please! Underestimating doesn't equal "realistic".
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Or maybe some are being realistic and others are being overly optimistic as usual.
I still think 7th-10th is what we worth with the current roster.
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I still think 7th-10th is what we worth with the current roster.
Probably. 6th is a reach but I think 11th is far more likely than 6th.
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Please! Underestimating doesn't equal "realistic".
This! And I've never once in my life been called optimistic or overly optimistic. That says it all.
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This! And I've never once in my life been called optimistic or overly optimistic. That says it all.
I have. And yet I still wanna tank. That says it all.
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