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Old 07-26-2012, 08:31 AM   #41 (permalink)
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Knicks are a playoff team. It's just a matter of whether it's 5-6-7.
They could easily be third if they pull it all together early in the season
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Old 07-26-2012, 07:34 PM   #42 (permalink)
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I love Kurt Thomas and J-Kidd. The Knicks picked up a few really smart vets, but they happen to be old as fuck. Health is a wildcard for them. It wouldn't surprise me if New York finished anywhere from 3rd to 9th. If they stay healthy and the vet additions offer the leadership to make them a real team, I could easily believe a 3rd place finish. There's a lot of talent and experience on that roster. But I could also see a revolving door to the injury reserve which makes it extremely difficult for them to develop chemistry. I wouldn't put any money on it, either way.
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^ I could see bone-headed play and two of their most talented players not being able to mesh, therefore leading to a low playoff seed due to lack of competition in the EC.
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Old 07-26-2012, 07:47 PM   #44 (permalink)
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What the Knicks have done is acquired character veterans, who even if they are old as fuck, will provide a unified front against tomfoolery. They have players who have earned the respect to call a player like Melo out. THey'll be good.
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MIA, BOS, IND, NY, BKN are the only shoe ins for the playoffs right now. Everyone else has big questions and no guarantees.

Chicago had trouble scoring vs better teams when Rose was playing, now they have Hinrich who looked like a shell of himself last year, and they lost all of their bench except Gibson. I think they're likely to fall out of the playoff picture with the team they have now, unless Boozer goes back to being 20+10 and Noah takes his game to another level. I dont think they're going to bring Rose back next year either so late in the season.

ATL PHI and MIL are all in no mans land as franchises at the moment. ATL I think will struggle scoring even moreso without JJ which is scary in itself. PHI is starting Kwame Brown and Spencer Hawes in the frontcourt, and I still have no idea what the hell MIL was thinking with their all chucker backcourt. But I think out of the group, MIL has the most talent and is the most likely to make the playoffs. I think PHI is going to move Iggy, and depending on the direction they go(if I was them I'd look to trade for picks and or a young player) I can see them falling out of the race. And I dont think ATL has enough talent overall as of right now.

DET CHA and CLE are all in the same boat. They're all too young and dont have enough good veteran players to make the playoffs, though I think CLE has the best shot if Waiters is any good, Irving becomes elite(likely), and Thompson gets better next year.

I put us and WAS in the same boat, as both teams have a lot of good young talent(Wall/Beal/Seraphin) mixed with some nice vets they picked up(Nene/Okafor/Ariza). If both teams develop chemistry early and the young guys show out early in the year then both have a good chance of moving up to 5th-7th seed area.

ORL is a complete wildcard. If they happen to keep Dwight the entire year, and he doesnt VC them, then they're still a playoff team, but the likelyhood of them keeping him is small.

So all in all, we have a good shot at making the playoffs this year if Val comes in and makes an impact right away, Lowry looks like he did before his injury, and we continue to play the defence we did last season. I actually feel more optomistic after finally looking at the East.
I agree with several of your points in this post.

Re: Bucks
The thing about that Milwaukee trade is, it actually worked during the small sample from last year. The Bucks were 12-9 with Ellis and Jennings in the backcourt together. So, yeah, if that same success translates to a full season next year, they can make the playoffs. If Ilyasova repeats last year's success, and Dalembert can give them some of pain protection Bogut used to (when healthy), they might steal a lot of games against better teams, like they did in 2010.
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Old 07-26-2012, 07:53 PM   #46 (permalink)
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I fucking hate Knicks..
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Old 07-26-2012, 07:55 PM   #47 (permalink)
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^ I could see bone-headed play....
I could see Kurt Thomas breaking bones and heads during play.
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I could see Kurt Thomas breaking bones and heads during play.
maybe his own.
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Skiles' teams usually turn sour by his 4th season, wouldn't shock me if their season goes down the drain.

For us to make it, jv has to be very solid and Bargnani needs to play 75 games at the same level he did in his good stretch last year. Otherwise we have no shot. Good thing is that we won't suck, if we don't make it, I think our pick will be in the 11-13 range or so.
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