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Old 08-26-2011, 02:13 PM   #1 (permalink)
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They asked 91 experts to grade each player on a scale of 1-10, and then averaged out the scores.

Solomon Alabi is given 1.57 and ranked 497, ahead of Lavoy Allen, Robert Vaden and Vernon Macklin. And nobody else. But only four spots removed from Eddy Curry.

Joey Dorsey comes in at 406 with 2.30, ahead of both Grahams!

And Ajinca comes in at 416 with 2.24, just behind Pops Mensa-Bonsuh.

James Johnson made it to 355 with a score of 2.68

They haven't ventured any higher than 351 yet.
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Old 08-26-2011, 02:34 PM   #2 (permalink)
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They asked 91 experts to grade each player on a scale of 1-10, and then averaged out the scores.

Solomon Alabi is given 1.57 and ranked 497, ahead of Lavoy Allen, Robert Vaden and Vernon Macklin. And nobody else. But only four spots removed from Eddy Curry.

Joey Dorsey comes in at 406 with 2.30, ahead of both Grahams!

And Ajinca comes in at 416 with 2.24, just behind Pops Mensa-Bonsuh.

James Johnson made it to 355 with a score of 2.68

They haven't ventured any higher than 351 yet.
Holy shit LX, thats 4 guys off our roster that are....er.....well ranked terrible.

And we get on guys for being terrible...I think it's a giant terrible collective!!!!

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Old 08-26-2011, 02:35 PM   #3 (permalink)
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ps. James Johnson, as a raptor, out rebounded and outplayed a good deal of the guys he was matched against. how 91 experts ranked him a 2/10 is beyond me man.
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Johnson is closer to a 3 than a 2. And he gets ranked among some decent players. For a guy that doesn't have a lot of games behind him, he didn't do too bad.
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that a harsh ranking system then. I mean, if a guy stats games at a position, he has to be top 50 at least. if there are only 75 or so guys in his position in the league, the dude is in the top two thirds which gets him a 6.

Oh well. i will be interested to see how the whole ranking looks.
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When the panel gets big it does not necessarily get smarter.
I'd rather see the ranking by 10 most involved, work-a-holic experts.

When you try to get to 91 voters, it means you are inviting everyone associated with you.
Random editors who cover multiple sports.
Folks from Hornets or Sacramento blogs that cover their own teams once a week outside of work hours.
And even the guy who sets ESPN TV schedule based on ratings. {Yes, they did include him}

Now, have most of those guys seen James Johnson? I doubt it.
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Old 08-26-2011, 03:25 PM   #7 (permalink)
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When the panel gets big it does not necessarily get smarter.
I'd rather see the ranking by 10 most involved, work-a-holic experts.

When you try to get to 91 voters, it means you are inviting everyone associated with you.
Random editors who cover multiple sports.
Folks from Hornets or Sacramento blogs that cover their own teams once a week outside of work hours.
And even the guy who sets ESPN TV schedule based on ratings. {Yes, they did include him}

Now, have most of those guys seen James Johnson? I doubt it.
Yeah, it would hurt the score of a James Johnson to not be well-known by some of those experts, but it's not like it wouldn't get averaged out with a bunch of other guys they haven't seen much of, thereby keeping him ranked about the same anyways. James Johnson is going to have about as much to go on as a middling to high draft pick from the last draft, and there's no huge crime in that.

It's not like he's a legit starter at this point. I saw damn near every minute that he played, and it's possible I wouldn't have rated him all that much higher. I'll have to see the next allotment to see if that's true though. I would imagine that rating the bottom half of the league would be pretty challenging, and not incredibly useful.
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Old 08-26-2011, 03:40 PM   #8 (permalink)
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ya ranking players in general is hard. I doubt the best basketball minds on earth could ever agree
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Old 08-26-2011, 04:41 PM   #9 (permalink)
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3/10? thats bullshit
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Old 08-26-2011, 05:21 PM   #10 (permalink)
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whatever, 3 of the 4 guys aren't even regular rotation players, those 3 are basically the daily inactive list guys
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Old 08-26-2011, 05:31 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Jerry Stackhouse is ahead of James Johnson lol. He has played less then 60 games in the last 3 years. Plus he only averaged 1.7ppg and 0.9rpg in his last 7 games with the heat.
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Jerry Stackhouse is ahead of James Johnson lol. He has played less then 60 games in the last 3 years. Plus he only averaged 1.7ppg and 0.9rpg in his last 7 games with the heat.
Stack is ranked lower than JJ, but still too high. It's pretty easy to see how past reputation can help, especially against players that haven't really proved anything.

JJ's ranking is definitely as low as he could go, but until he proves himself within a well-defined role on a decent team, that's where guys like him will get stuck. Stackhouse could still prove valuable as a guy coming off the bench to make shots. Seeing him have some success in that role, be it for 82 games or 15, does not take a great flight of fancy.
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They have Jonas tied at 313 but the little blurb under it is very optimistic.

NBA Player Rankings 301-350 - ESPN
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They have Jonas tied at 313 but the little blurb under it is very optimistic.

NBA Player Rankings 301-350 - ESPN
Cool - I missed that. He kicked Motiejunas' ass by 71 places.
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Considering there's less than 300 ppl who can get 10 PER in the NBA... 313 does not exactly show high expectations
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Considering there's less than 300 ppl who can get 10 PER in the NBA... 313 does not exactly show high expectations
Yeah but remember the way they voted is how the player current is. This doesn't include the year that Val will have under his belt when he enters the nba next year or his potential. This is just simply how good they think he is right now, and while he did play amazing in the U19, he hasn't had the chance to prove himself in the seniors.
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They said there's 96 players worse then Luke Babbitt? Obviously these fools didn't watch enough Blazer games. No way he shoulda cracked 450.
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The James Johnson ranking is absolutely ridiculous.
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Yeah but remember the way they voted is how the player current is. This doesn't include the year that Val will have under his belt when he enters the nba next year or his potential. This is just simply how good they think he is right now, and while he did play amazing in the U19, he hasn't had the chance to prove himself in the seniors.
Well currently, JJ is a starter on the Raps and played very well. So how the hell is he ranked with the shittiest guys in the NBA?
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JV shouldn't have even been included according to their own criteria.

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