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jeffb 12-19-2012 07:50 PM

ESPN: Ed Davis, good player in a bad situation
 
From ESPN Inside: Tom Haberstroh


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Quick, someone rescue Davis before something bad happens. With players-only meetings and injuries to Andrea Bargnani (elbow) and Kyle Lowry (triceps) plaguing the Raptors, the Toronto squad appears to be a sinking ship -- and 23-year-old Davis doesn't deserve to go down with it. The organization should be building around this kid rather than burying him behind Bargnani's bricklaying campaign.

Now that Bargnani is missing some time with his elbow issue, maybe Toronto will show a least a little more confidence in Davis. Despite playing less than 20 minutes per game so far this season, he's averaging 14.7 points and 12.2 rebounds per 36 minutes (which are Varejao-type numbers). Although Davis might not erupt for 24 points and 12 boards every night the way he did on Wednesday against the Nets, he has showed that he's not just a limited scorer around the rim. Will he continue to shine when Bargnani gets back? If not, let him blossom elsewhere.

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Dario 12-19-2012 08:11 PM

nice

KoolAid 12-19-2012 09:06 PM

If we decide to stick with bargs (dear god no), at least his trade value is increasing

jeffb 12-19-2012 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by KoolAid (Post 725084)
If we decide to stick with bargs (dear god no), at least his trade value is increasing

What, we can't have two PF's?

KoolAid 12-19-2012 09:14 PM

Well, he may not enjoy backing up Bargs especially seeing as how the team is playing much better without him, he may start feeling he is better than Bargnani.

Don Vito 12-19-2012 09:14 PM

I've been saying it for a while, Davis is the future at PF.

JDMtors 12-19-2012 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by jeffb (Post 725090)
What, we can't have two PF's?

It was good when Bargnani was coming off the bench his rookie season, if Bargnani cant get traded that is the best scenario and have Ed start instead. Its a shame that he barely gets his mins, and he has shown he can produce when given the minutes since his rookie season.

LOG 12-19-2012 09:22 PM

David Aldridge Provides Encouraging Bargnani Trade Speculation | RaptorBlog | Blogs | theScore.com

pzabby 12-19-2012 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Don Vito (Post 725092)
I've been saying it for a while, Davis is the future at PF.

another piece of good drafting by BC

jeffb 12-19-2012 10:37 PM

Yet not on the floor tonight to finish he game. :sigh:

bigmandinky 12-19-2012 10:44 PM

WHOS IN A BAD SITUATION NOW!!!! 4 WINS IN A ROW #FUCKuESPN

AR1815 12-19-2012 10:45 PM

What was the rumor about Davis not wanting to play here when he was drafted? I never really followed it through but it's been in the back of my mind, especially recently.

I'm liking Ed's hustle of defense and rebounding - the guy goes up hard for every board. But offensively he's limited to little more than lay-ups and dunks. He can hit jumpers within 12 - 14 feet, but for all of Jack and Matt's talk about an improved jumper, I don't see that as a reliable weapon in his offensive arsenal, at least yet.

jeffb 12-19-2012 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by AR1815 (Post 725343)
What was the rumor about Davis not wanting to play here when he was drafted? I never really followed it through but it's been in the back of my mind, especially recently.

I'm liking Ed's hustle of defense and rebounding - the guy goes up hard for every board. But offensively he's limited to little more than lay-ups and dunks. He can hit jumpers within 12 - 14 feet, but for all of Jack and Matt's talk about an improved jumper, I don't see that as a reliable weapon in his offensive arsenal, at least yet.

If he plays a consistent 30min he'd give us 12/10/2, i would take that in a heartbeat with his energy and defense over Bargnani's lack of effort.

AR1815 12-19-2012 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by jeffb (Post 725348)
If he plays a consistent 30min he'd give us 12/10/2, i would take that in a heartbeat with his energy and defense over Bargnani's lack of effort.

Definitely, and I think Ed's jumper will improve - today he hit a few from around 10 - 15 feet. At this point, maybe trading Bargs for literally nothing at all will benefit the team...

Dario 12-19-2012 10:52 PM

now hes in a dang good situation, keep that bench warm bargs.

Ataf 12-19-2012 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by AR1815 (Post 725343)
What was the rumor about Davis not wanting to play here when he was drafted? I never really followed it through but it's been in the back of my mind, especially recently.

It was a bs rumor made, based on his expression getting drafted. It was dumb... and not worth to keep note off honestly...

Whether he wants to play here or not is not known.

INSIDER 12-19-2012 11:06 PM

well, if we can finally dump bargs, he'll be in a fantastic situation.

jeffb 12-19-2012 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by AR1815 (Post 725353)
Definitely, and I think Ed's jumper will improve - today he hit a few from around 10 - 15 feet. At this point, maybe trading Bargs for literally nothing at all will benefit the team...

Food for thought


When Lowry went down early in the season, our lineup with Jose starting was:

Calderon
Derozan
Kleiza
Bargnani
Valanciunas

^^ We continued to struggle with this lineup, especially on defense.


This time around, with Bargs also out the starters are:

Calderon
Derozan
Pietrus
Davis
Valanciunas

^^ This lineup is winning games. Pietrus is slightly better than Kleiza but the main difference imo other than Jose's play right now is Ed Davis playing 30mpg. He's been a huge difference, especially on D. Our interior defense is now far better.

LOG 12-19-2012 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by INSIDER (Post 725375)
well, if we can finally dump bargs, we'll be in a fantastic situation.

fixed :cookie:

INSIDER 12-19-2012 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by LOG (Post 725381)
fixed :cookie:

good call.


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