ESPN: DeRozan "More Polished Than Advertised"
Old 07-16-2009, 04:40 AM   #1 (permalink)
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# DeMar DeRozan is far more polished than advertised. He uses his quickness to build his game. As Mike Moreau said in David Thorpe's twitter thread, "Demar DeRozan really comes off the curl with speed, balance and elevation-very controlled. Will come off a decade's worth of pindowns." He also rarely takes a bad shot -- uncommon among rookies and in Summer League, and particularly uncommon among rookies in Summer League.

Source: Day Six Summer League Roundup - TrueHoop By Henry Abbott - ESPN


He had another good outing last night against Portland, hitting 9-16 for 20 points. He also had the "game winning" alley-oop with 46 seconds left.

Unfortunately, I wasn't there (by there I mean my computer) to watch the game, but it looks like he is much further along than people anticipated and may actually contribute this season. I've also noticed that despite not having the greatest handle, he turns the ball over very rarely and seems to be playing with his head: great news considering how athletic he is and how easy it would have been to just rely on his athleticism.
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Old 07-16-2009, 04:55 AM   #2 (permalink)
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it looks like he is much further along than people anticipated and may actually contribute this season.
Not true. Not everybody was playing the 'he is just a rookie and has got a lot to learn' card.
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Old 07-16-2009, 08:04 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Not true. Not everybody was playing the 'he is just a rookie and has got a lot to learn' card.
It wasn't just a card - Demar was just a rookie last year in college after all! For him to be this far along already (and carry his strong play into the regular season) would be fantastic for us!
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All I know is that a while back I posted a large post about DD. One thing I focused on was his ability to get free for the mid range shot, which will be huge in the NBA.

I was right, of course, becuae I always am. But consider this. Summer League looks more like a YMCA game than aan NBA game, once DD gets the benefit of actual spacing and open lanes and seams, he's going to a very difficult guy to guard with his mid range abilities.

I like the guy, not bad for a 9th pick.
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I still think he will have lots of learning to do and will hit some bumps along the way, but this is very encouraging stuff.
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DeRozan played one year of college and out of that one year he only performed well for 1/3 of it. Of course he has a lot to learn. I think he's less skilled than Bosh when he came out after one year and Bosh really took three full seasons before he came into his own. I'm not expecting any more out of him than 10PPG, controlled play, strong defensive effort and strong rebounding effort.
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Old 07-16-2009, 08:49 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Is Derozan better than Moon at this point?
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As long as the effort is there good things should happen, but I'm still tempering my expectations for the guy in his rookie year. I just hope he doesn't look completely lost and by mid-season has earned some consistent minutes and is contributing at both ends of the court.
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DeRozan played one year of college and out of that one year he only performed well for 1/3 of it. Of course he has a lot to learn. I think he's less skilled than Bosh when he came out after one year and Bosh really took three full seasons before he came into his own. I'm not expecting any more out of him than 10PPG, controlled play, strong defensive effort and strong rebounding effort.
The thing about Derozan is that even though his game might not be as far ahead as Bosh's may have been, he's leaps and bounds ahead of where Bosh is and was in terms of athletic potential and ability. The common trait with the two is that they're both gym rats, and when you consider a guy like Derozan whose ceiling is sky-high, it's very encouraging.

I like the looks of a three year window before Demar really becomes a player.
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most of the fowards are better than Moon
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It wasn't just a card - Demar was just a rookie last year in college after all! For him to be this far along already (and carry his strong play into the regular season) would be fantastic for us!
I don't disagree but I would say most here did expect that he would be able to contribute in his first season. I ran a poll a couple of weeks ago if he should start; 48 % yes 20% no 32% maybe.

The rookie should start
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DeRozan played one year of college and out of that one year he only performed well for 1/3 of it. Of course he has a lot to learn. I think he's less skilled than Bosh when he came out after one year and Bosh really took three full seasons before he came into his own. I'm not expecting any more out of him than 10PPG, controlled play, strong defensive effort and strong rebounding effort.
Agreed.

Which is pretty much what you got out of PArker.

The thing thats great is you'll get the wow factor with him. The "Big play" that is such an intangible in sport. Thats why he will be a great addition... or at elast we all hope.
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All I know is that a while back I posted a large post about DD. One thing I focused on was his ability to get free for the mid range shot, which will be huge in the NBA.

Yea, but from what I've seen and read on him in college, it was exactly his first step and quickness off the dribble that turned scouts off. His mid-range game was very respectable in college, I agree, but the things that he is doing in SL is exactly what I thought he would have struggled with, and pretty much what made him slide to the 9th spot, along with his inexperience.

Now, the kid is dribbling around his opponents, getting to the rim pretty much at will; and when he isn't going to the basket, he is more than able to stop and shoot the midrange jumper. His form is a little ehh... but he has great elevation that will translate well into the NBA. The form can be fixed easily, it's not a big deal.

What you said about spacing and playing on a team with 4 guys that can him the 18 footer automatically is absolutely true, though. He will have so many creases and gaps to go through to get to the rim that I'm sure he will excel on just this kind of team. I really can't wait to see him play.
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Agreed.

Which is pretty much what you got out of PArker.

The thing thats great is you'll get the wow factor with him. The "Big play" that is such an intangible in sport. Thats why he will be a great addition... or at elast we all hope.
Broken plays and the fast break are going to be good for a few jaw dropping moments and highlight reels.
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That sounds promising. From a rookie 2, you've got to be pretty happy if they're athletic, can hit a midrange shot consistently, and have good shot selection. Hopefully this transfers to the big league this season.
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That sounds promising. From a rookie 2, you've got to be pretty happy if they're athletic, can hit a midrange shot consistently, and have good shot selection. Hopefully this transfers to the big league this season.
Demar's showing that he's not just a raw, talented, freak athlete, but that he's got a sense for the game. We know he's a gym rat, so that coupled with how deep his sense for the game is will determine how well he plays in the L.
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I hope the stellar play off his continues into the season. I would naturally expect lower points though because of our starting line-ups scoring ability.

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i like what i have seen so far, but as has been mentioned, he is still VERY YOUNG to be really effective at the NBA level.. it took Kobe time and most kids have not even finished growing until 21... LBJ was a freak! i look forward to DD's growth and he will contribute in spots and grow... i suspect JJ was brought in to mentor the kid!

just a thought.. a by-product of bringing him here to lure CB
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I'm not going to raise my expectations too much, but everything we've been hearing has been very, very encouraging.

I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up starting for us and plays a good 20-25 minutes a game.
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