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Dr. J. Naismith · 06-02-2008, 08:56 PM

Melo in Toronto = Disaster.

Preach it brutha Bill.

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Originally Posted by ESPN

Jonathan, Toronto: Any chance you think the Raptors could land Melo? Maybe Jose Calderon, Moon, 2008 first rounder, 2010 first rounder, Kapono and take back whatever contract Denver doesn't want? Melo and Bosh would automatically propel the Raps to top 2 in the East for years to come

SportsNation Bill Simmons: Matching up Melo and the Raptor Truthers would be one of the single worst marriages of all time - even worse than Mike Tyson and Robin Givens. They would eat him alive. I hope that doesn't happen. The Raps need to sign Calderon and trade TJ Ford or we might have a riot in Canada.

Kirby · 06-02-2008, 09:03 PM

Now who the hell as a Raptor fan is stupid enough to go with this rumor?
If he can learn to get at least 4 assists in a game, then trade him here. I like Melo but he's just a ball hog..A really wet one though.
''5 seconds left, Parker inbounds. Carmelo steals it off of Bosh! 2 seconds left! Melo with a fade-away 40 footer! And the Raptors lose...
Maybe he wouldn't be that bad..But the bad media attention from the last 2 months about him sure have brought my opinions on him down.
Swap Calderon with Ford and we may have another big trade asset/SF starter averaging 25PPG...

dfunkie1 · 06-02-2008, 09:15 PM

pick and choose who you want to like, you have to admit that melo is one hell of a basketball player whose game keeps maturing. i would love to see him in a Raptors jersey.

simmons is right, though. he would get eaten alive in toronto by the fans and media.

**Acie** · 06-02-2008, 09:37 PM

I'd take Melo.

LX · 06-02-2008, 09:46 PM

I'd take him over AI for sure.

Kirby · 06-02-2008, 10:10 PM

I've heard a lot of criticizing on Melo. If he can solve our 2nd option problem then bring him in but I don't want him to all of a sudden become our 1st option. Unless Bosh can handle it being that way. Although I wouldn't want to give away Calderon as bait..(3-4APP)

ClingRap · 06-02-2008, 10:32 PM

I'd take Melo.

Kirby · 06-02-2008, 10:57 PM

''I'd take Melo''
On what accounts?

**Claudius** · 06-02-2008, 11:03 PM

To be honest, I wouldn't take Melo. I've always hated his attitude since his Syracuse days and although I think he's a nice player, I also used to think that Vince Carter was a nice player as well and that's where I see Melo's career eventually heading.

Kirby · 06-02-2008, 11:13 PM

I don't see Melo quitting on the Raps if he were to be here now. VC quit on us because of no help but he was being a fag. I also can picture that Melo-VC moment..That would be saddening.. If he could learn to pass a little more then I wouldn't mind him being here. His attitude problems may be a factor.

**Belsius** · 06-03-2008, 06:46 AM

I wouldnt. Cancer.

Taz · 06-03-2008, 06:55 AM

You're joking! No, sorry. No Melo.

JayJayW · 06-03-2008, 08:18 AM

Melo = cancer x20

i've hated him since he was crying that he didnt make the all star game in his rookie and sophmore year...thinking he deserved it, but truly he didnt

**Acie** · 06-03-2008, 08:19 AM

Without a player of Melo's ilk the Raps won't be able to compete against the elite.

As it is they can barely compete against the lower tier teams.

I don't see any other way for them to get a 26 points a night out of the SF position without sending Bosh packing.

Maybe hanging out with a nerd like Bosh will calm him down a bit.

Dr. J. Naismith · 06-03-2008, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by ACIEEARL40

Without a player of Melo's ilk the Raps won't be able to compete against the elite.

+1 Exactly ACIE.

Some way, some how we need to acquire a huge second key piece for this franchise because we won't get far if we have to just depend on Bosh and Calderon for the next couple seasons. We'd continue being one of those 6 to 8 seed teams for years on end.

Melo would be great, but extremely unlikely. Don't know who else out there is comparable to him, but is feasible for us to acquire this summer.

MangoKidHoops · 06-03-2008, 09:20 AM

That wouldn't even be CLOSE to what Denver would want for Melo. Heck, if they could get Jefferson, Harris and a 1st from Jersey, why the fuck would they want Calderon and a bunch of scrubs?

Dr. J. Naismith · 06-03-2008, 09:27 AM

Yup, only person we have that the Nuggets would even be remotely interested in is Bosh and if you can't have them both then trading one for the other seems kind of moot doesn't it? ;confused2:

ClingRap · 06-03-2008, 09:44 AM

Well since we arent talking about what Denver wants for Melo, but whether or not he'd fit on the team, I say hell yes on the simple fact that he's a guy who'll open up the lane for Bosh, while Bosh opens up the perimeter for him. He's 6'9", competes for scoring titles every year, and can rebound. Oh yeah. He's young, an all-star, with a lot of time to develop maturity.
We're a 42-40 team that's won how many playoff series? One? Conference finals? Finals? Beggers can't be choosers when it comes to players of the calibre of Melo. If he's a 10-day or poetential draftee then you wonder about the knucklehead stuff, but if we're able to get melo without losing bosh, then hell yes, we go out and get his ass.

Torontosaurus · 06-03-2008, 09:59 AM

I'd take Melo-noma. He's an all-star level talent with the potential of being even better. He just needs to grow up and mature a bit. If he can help the team without stunting Bosh's play, athletically and talent-wise, we would be really strong.

MangoKidHoops · 06-03-2008, 10:06 AM

For that, you're looking at giving up AT LEAST Calderon, Bargnani, Moon, a 1st this year, and at least another future first, Rasho for Melo and say Kenyon Martin/Nene.

06-02-2008, 09:03 PM	#2 (permalink)
Kirby is don't lurk me bro. Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 5,411 Representing:	Now who the hell as a Raptor fan is stupid enough to go with this rumor? If he can learn to get at least 4 assists in a game, then trade him here. I like Melo but he's just a ball hog..A really wet one though. ''5 seconds left, Parker inbounds. Carmelo steals it off of Bosh! 2 seconds left! Melo with a fade-away 40 footer! And the Raptors lose... Maybe he wouldn't be that bad..But the bad media attention from the last 2 months about him sure have brought my opinions on him down. Swap Calderon with Ford and we may have another big trade asset/SF starter averaging 25PPG... Last edited by Kirby; 06-02-2008 at 09:11 PM.

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06-02-2008, 09:15 PM	#3 (permalink)
dfunkie1 is pounding ur mom Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 5,482 Representing:	pick and choose who you want to like, you have to admit that melo is one hell of a basketball player whose game keeps maturing. i would love to see him in a Raptors jersey. simmons is right, though. he would get eaten alive in toronto by the fans and media.

06-02-2008, 09:37 PM	#4 (permalink)
Acie is landry fields forever Administrator Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Living in a van down by the river Posts: 20,434 Representing:	I'd take Melo.

06-02-2008, 09:46 PM	#5 (permalink)
LX is a belly putter in a world of crotch shots In the Paint Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Toronto Posts: 23,411 Representing:	I'd take him over AI for sure.

06-02-2008, 10:10 PM	#6 (permalink)
Kirby is don't lurk me bro. Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 5,411 Representing:	I've heard a lot of criticizing on Melo. If he can solve our 2nd option problem then bring him in but I don't want him to all of a sudden become our 1st option. Unless Bosh can handle it being that way. Although I wouldn't want to give away Calderon as bait..(3-4APP)

06-02-2008, 10:32 PM	#7 (permalink)
ClingRap is enjoying having the keys to destiny perusing ancient database Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: The far side of the Universe. Posts: 1,816 Representing:	I'd take Melo.

06-02-2008, 10:57 PM	#8 (permalink)
Kirby is don't lurk me bro. Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 5,411 Representing:	''I'd take Melo'' On what accounts?

06-02-2008, 11:03 PM	#9 (permalink)
Claudius is contemplating The Killing Joke Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Burkina Faso, Disputed Zone Posts: 9,603 Representing:	To be honest, I wouldn't take Melo. I've always hated his attitude since his Syracuse days and although I think he's a nice player, I also used to think that Vince Carter was a nice player as well and that's where I see Melo's career eventually heading.

06-02-2008, 11:13 PM	#10 (permalink)
Kirby is don't lurk me bro. Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 5,411 Representing:	I don't see Melo quitting on the Raps if he were to be here now. VC quit on us because of no help but he was being a fag. I also can picture that Melo-VC moment..That would be saddening.. If he could learn to pass a little more then I wouldn't mind him being here. His attitude problems may be a factor.

06-03-2008, 06:46 AM	#11 (permalink)
Belsius is a paranoid android My name is Iñigo Montoya Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Madrid, Spain Posts: 10,493 Representing:	I wouldnt. Cancer.

06-03-2008, 06:55 AM	#12 (permalink)
Taz is playing catch-up. Back in the game. Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Toronto, ON Posts: 1,709 Representing:	You're joking! No, sorry. No Melo.

06-03-2008, 08:18 AM	#13 (permalink)
JayJayW is dollar dollar bills yall Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 417 Representing:	Melo = cancer x20 i've hated him since he was crying that he didnt make the all star game in his rookie and sophmore year...thinking he deserved it, but truly he didnt

06-03-2008, 08:19 AM	#14 (permalink)
Acie is landry fields forever Administrator Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Living in a van down by the river Posts: 20,434 Representing:	Without a player of Melo's ilk the Raps won't be able to compete against the elite. As it is they can barely compete against the lower tier teams. I don't see any other way for them to get a 26 points a night out of the SF position without sending Bosh packing. Maybe hanging out with a nerd like Bosh will calm him down a bit.

06-03-2008, 09:20 AM	#16 (permalink)
MangoKidHoops is saying too many dudes are Tyson Chandler, trying to lead their teams and went nowhere Scarborough, We Go Hard.. Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 6,916 Representing:	That wouldn't even be CLOSE to what Denver would want for Melo. Heck, if they could get Jefferson, Harris and a 1st from Jersey, why the fuck would they want Calderon and a bunch of scrubs?

06-03-2008, 09:27 AM	#17 (permalink)
Dr. J. Naismith is convinced that Raptors fans are only happy when they're unhappy. Retired Administrator Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Almonte Posts: 10,251 Representing:	Yup, only person we have that the Nuggets would even be remotely interested in is Bosh and if you can't have them both then trading one for the other seems kind of moot doesn't it? ;confused2:

06-03-2008, 09:44 AM	#18 (permalink)
ClingRap is enjoying having the keys to destiny perusing ancient database Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: The far side of the Universe. Posts: 1,816 Representing:	Well since we arent talking about what Denver wants for Melo, but whether or not he'd fit on the team, I say hell yes on the simple fact that he's a guy who'll open up the lane for Bosh, while Bosh opens up the perimeter for him. He's 6'9", competes for scoring titles every year, and can rebound. Oh yeah. He's young, an all-star, with a lot of time to develop maturity. We're a 42-40 team that's won how many playoff series? One? Conference finals? Finals? Beggers can't be choosers when it comes to players of the calibre of Melo. If he's a 10-day or poetential draftee then you wonder about the knucklehead stuff, but if we're able to get melo without losing bosh, then hell yes, we go out and get his ass.

06-03-2008, 09:59 AM	#19 (permalink)
Torontosaurus is waiting for the Masai-a on ihateus Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Victoria, home of the Nash-ites Posts: 3,344 Representing:	I'd take Melo-noma. He's an all-star level talent with the potential of being even better. He just needs to grow up and mature a bit. If he can help the team without stunting Bosh's play, athletically and talent-wise, we would be really strong.

06-03-2008, 10:06 AM	#20 (permalink)
MangoKidHoops is saying too many dudes are Tyson Chandler, trying to lead their teams and went nowhere Scarborough, We Go Hard.. Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 6,916 Representing:	For that, you're looking at giving up AT LEAST Calderon, Bargnani, Moon, a 1st this year, and at least another future first, Rasho for Melo and say Kenyon Martin/Nene.