Eric Smith: Tough Load To Shoulder For Bosh
Old 05-14-2009, 04:57 PM   #1 (permalink)
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This blog is kind of a a hybrid of what I posted in the "comments" section of my Fan 590 blog from yesterday. But I'm going into greater detail to discuss the issue ...

And what's on tap?

Chris Bosh - and whether or not he can carry a team on his own.

My answer?

No. He can't.

But no player in the NBA can.

Sure, LeBron James may be the closest one to doing so, but what was Cleveland's greatest weakness last summer?

The point guard position.

So the Cavs went out and got a top flight PG in Mo Williams, who went on to have a fantastic (All-Star) season, and look at how Cleveland steamrolled through most of the NBA - en route to the best record in the league.

LeBron needed a partner in crime, and Williams fit the bill. Plus, knowing full well that LBJ is the heart and soul (and blood and guts) of the Cavs, you've still got to wonder how good/bad Cleveland would be if not for guys like Zydrunas Ilgauskas, Anderson Varejao, and Delonte West as well.

And what about Kobe Bryant? How many championships has he won without Shaquille O'Neal? And how did L.A. look before they picked up Pau Gasol last year? Seems to me they were a pretty average "team" with one very good "individual".

Which kind of reminds me of Dwyane Wade and the Miami Heat.

Yes, Wade battled through injuries last year (playing in only 51 games), but the Heat were one of the worst teams in the league. And this year, even his MVP-calibre season couldn't lift Miami past the first round. Time and time again you heard analysts and experts talk about Wade having little "help" around him in South Beach - even after the arrival of Jermaine O'Neal as well.

Wade's best season - his championship season - was when he had Shaq as a running mate.

How 'bout Chris Paul?

He may be the best point guard in the league, but the Hornets took a step back this year (from what they did last year) and Paul couldn't carry his team out of the first round. Sure, New Orleans is stuck in the very tough Western Conference, but many folks seems to think (and I agree) that even David West isn't enough "help", and that Paul needs a legit SG/SF to be paired with. Peja Stojakovic in his twilight and Rasual Butler just aren't enough.

And what did Paul Pierce do before he had Kevin Garnett and Ray Allen? Like Toronto this year, Boston is just two years removed from a 33-49 season as well.

Ask Michael Jordan how many rings he thinks he'd have without Scottie Pippen, let alone clutch shooters that sealed the deal for a number of Bulls' championships like Craig Hodges, Steve Kerr, and John Paxson.

My point?

Everyone good/great player needs a partner in crime. Every team needs a Batman AND a Robin.

The Raptors are hoping Andrea Bargnani and/or Jose Calderon can fill that role alongside Bosh, but neither are there yet. Bargnani has show signs, but he needs at least another year of experience and consistency. He has the potential to be very good, but he's not quite there yet. And when healthy, Calderon has played at a level that would put him among the best guards in the league, but his "D" has to improve and he has to be more of a selfish (and aggressive) offensive player as well.

So the critics or skeptics can say what they will about Bosh, but it's obvious that he needs help. It's obvious he needs a wing player that can come into Toronto and star and take some of the scoring load off his shoulders (and break a man down off the dribble ... create his own shot ... etc). Bryan Colangelo knows that, and he said as much last summer and he's already said it again this summer too.

But wanting/needing that kind of player is one thing. Being able to find/get that kind of player is another. However, if Toronto can acquire that scoring wing that they so desperately need, it won't matter if Bosh makes that player better or if that player makes Bosh better. The TEAM will be better overall.

It's not about the individual, it's about the team.
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Surprise...Surprise.....one player cant lead a team to a championship.....
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trade Caldy and/or Bargs for a wing
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It's easy to get that player that can help him. Just trade him.
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Old 05-14-2009, 05:10 PM   #5 (permalink)
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OMG! YOU MEAN THAT Bosh CAN'T BE EXPECTED TO CARRY OUR TEAM TO A TITLE BY HIMSELF????

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Kinda obvious and this is wy I don't want to trade Bosh just yet but instead get a good SG that can pitch in 20 ppg a night
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trade Caldy and/or Bargs for a wing
Bargs for Kevin Martin

this was an excellent post though. The year after Shaq AND Phil Jackson left... the kobe/lamar odom/caron butler lakers didn't even manage 35 wins.

What? The almighty Kobe Bryant only got 34 wins?? Is he not worth Max Money? Would they sign and trade him for draft picks? I wonder. Kobe has nothing without a 2nd all-star, the same goes for Bosh.
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trade Caldy and/or Bargs for a wing
Another one banging his head against a wall.
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Kinda obvious and this is wy I don't want to trade Bosh just yet but instead get a good SG that can pitch in 20 ppg a night
It's not like we're picking apples off of trees here gurk, 20 ppg guys are not a dime a dozen. We're either going to have to trade something (well, someone) of value to get that guy or we're going to have to pay top dollar to get one which right now isn't necessarily looking like an option.
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this guy is truly a genius, hes the only one in the world that noticed that cb4 can't win a championship by himself
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trade Caldy and/or Bargs for a wing
And then you create another equally damaging hole. They need to find a dance partner who is interested in pieces outside Andrea and Jose. If not then Bosh needs to go. Bosh might need to go anyway.
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Another one banging his head against a wall.
I have a hard head, so it doesn't bother me
I'm hoping my persistant head banging breaks down the wall for a Bargs and/or Caldy to be traded
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trade Caldy and/or Bargs for a wing
So you want to give the PG spot to Douby and/or Ukic?

That's quite the gamble.
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And then you create another equally damaging hole. They need to find a dance partner who is interested in pieces outside Andrea and Jose. If not then Bosh needs to go. Bosh might need to go anyway.
so you think Marion, AP or Graham is going to net a solid wing player?
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One of the best Raps articles I have read in a while, yet you guys tear it up.

Amazing
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I didn't tear it up. I actually teared up reading it. It certainly beats Zitarelli.
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So you want to give the PG spot to Douby and/or Ukic?

That's quite the gamble.
like I said and/or

If Caldy is traded you can
trade for another PG w/ Marion or draft one in a PG heavy draft

for arguments sake lets day you get K Martin and draft Evans

Evans
Martin
Marion
Bosh
Zaza

isn't that better than the current line up?
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like I said and/or

If Caldy is traded you can
trade for another PG w/ Marion or draft one in a PG heavy draft

for arguments sake lets day you get K Martin and draft Evans

Evans
Martin
Marion
Bosh
Zaza

isn't that better than the current line up?
Why is Marion in that lineup? I thought you said we trade Marion to get Martin
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Why is Marion in that lineup? I thought you said we trade Marion to get Martin
notice the ommision of Caldy and Bargs?
I was showing how you could still trade 'em and have a good team
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I think it's a fairly stupid article. What was toronto's biggest weaknesses last season? Defense, rebounding and toughness. What did Toronto do? Add a tough PF/C who is a good defender and (was) a good rebounder. The results? We've won 9 fewer games ...

Anyway, the reason this is a stupid article is because there's a failing logic there. Just because Bosh can't win a title by himself, it doesn't make him equal in value with Lebron. Maybe that wasn't his point, but I can't see what else he's trying to say.

If Bosh gets a max salary next season, I expect him to be a top 20 player on BOTH offense and defense, and to play hard every game, even when he's defended by a tough physical opponent. And I don't think he can do that.
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