Ed Davis needs starters minutes

fk24 · 12-04-2012, 03:49 AM

Whether that means sitting Bargnani or JV, although I think it woul work better playing with Bargnani. The only time we play well defensively is when Ed is on the floor like you saw last night.

rapsmannn · 12-04-2012, 07:12 AM

casey has to commit to 3 big man rotation, its just not enough minutes for four guys to play

gdaytday · 12-04-2012, 09:17 AM

I don't think that Ed should play at the expense of minutes for Jonas. Jonas has a much greater upside.

But I agree...I think Davis has earned more playing time.

RAPMAN · 12-04-2012, 09:39 AM

The Spurs game has really raised the confidence of Ed Davis. We need fresh legs, I think a 4 big man rotation is fine. No way we sacrifice the minutes of Val for Ed Davis. Minutes should taken away from Bargnani. I think the chemistry and energy of Amir and Ed Davis is really picking up. I like to see more Ed Davis and Jonas on the floor. Ed Davis has always had a lack of consistency and focus. The spark and jump of Jonas would help Ed Davis.

carp · 12-04-2012, 10:36 AM

I think Amir should be shipped out. Give ed his minutes and you won't see a drop off.... give up Amir, along with something else and see what you can get.

JV must not lose any minutes.

thought · 12-04-2012, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by carp

I think Amir should be shipped out. Give ed his minutes and you won't see a drop off.... give up Amir, along with something else and see what you can get.

JV must not lose any minutes.

agreed. i love amir, but I think we've seen the limit of what he can do. Ed Davis has another level (or two) to his game and is already interchangeable with Amir. Even if you do believe Amir is a cut better, the temporary minor dropoff would be worth it in the long-run.

JoeyJoJo Shabbadu · 12-04-2012, 10:48 AM

I would like to see way more of Ed and Jonas on the floor together.

LET'S GO RAPTORS!!!!! · 12-04-2012, 10:49 AM

the guy needs minutes. whenever he plays, he produces. he also has a good idea of what he can and can't do. agreed that he has that other level or two which he could get to.

LET'S GO RAPTORS!!!!! · 12-04-2012, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by JoeyJoJo Shabbadu

I would like to see way more of Ed and Jonas on the floor together.

agreed.

thought · 12-04-2012, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by JoeyJoJo Shabbadu

I would like to see way more of Ed and Jonas on the floor together.

word. still a little raw offensively, but you can't knock the shot-blocking and the rebounding.

i like that both guys can get up and down the floor.

pzabby · 12-04-2012, 11:21 AM

davis isn't good enough to get minutes against the other teams' starters and still produce well. he's not good enough to bench Bargnani over, not yet anyways, and in my eyes never will be. it's much better to have 2 7 footers on the floor than one, trust me, the mere fact that they're both there makes it intimidating to drive.

especially given that bargnani's defence is starting to pick up again, working its way up to pre injury form and his offence is picking up too. yesterday was one of the few games we got out rebounded badly, even with Bargnani we're a good rebounding team with lowry, JV, and emergence of Demar.

Davis should not take away minutes from bargnani, or JV. amir? sure, but not our two starting bigs. just. not. good. enough

carp · 12-04-2012, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by pzabby

davis isn't good enough to get minutes against the other teams' starters and still produce well. he's not good enough to bench Bargnani over, not yet anyways, and in my eyes never will be. it's much better to have 2 7 footers on the floor than one, trust me, the mere fact that they're both there makes it intimidating to drive.

especially given that bargnani's defence is starting to pick up again, working its way up to pre injury form and his offence is picking up too. yesterday was one of the few games we got out rebounded badly, even with Bargnani we're a good rebounding team with lowry, JV, and emergence of Demar.

Davis should not take away minutes from bargnani, or JV. amir? sure, but not our two starting bigs. just. not. good. enough

Agreed. It's Amir. He's gotta lose time. Send him out, as much as I like the kid, and get back Casspi or some young, athletic SF kid.

moremilk · 12-04-2012, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by pzabby

it's much better to have 2 7 footers on the floor than one, trust me, the mere fact that they're both there makes it intimidating to drive.

really? can't say I noticed anybody being intimidated so far ...

carp · 12-04-2012, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by moremilk

really? can't say I noticed anybody being intimidated so far ...

Every team has some role players coming in against us looking to light the candle!

Kirby · 12-04-2012, 05:38 PM

Casspi is garbage, please don't ask for him anymore.

Metallikid · 12-04-2012, 06:29 PM

Easy answer - trade Bargnani.

LET'S GO RAPTORS!!!!! · 12-04-2012, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Metallikid

Easy answer - trade Bargnani.

Okay. For what/whom?

carp · 12-04-2012, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Kirby

Casspi is garbage, please don't ask for him anymore.

Completely disagree.

Raptors1995 · 12-04-2012, 07:38 PM

Ed Davis definitely deserves more minutes. He's close to 6 and 6 in 15 minutes. He's a trade asset as it is, but if he was let's say 10 and 8-9 with some more playing time, he could net us a really good return.

Raptors1995 · 12-04-2012, 07:39 PM

Amir Johnson for Wilson Chandler

12-04-2012, 03:49 AM	#1 (permalink)
fk24 is pounding the rock! Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 2,287 Representing:	Ed Davis needs starters minutes Whether that means sitting Bargnani or JV, although I think it woul work better playing with Bargnani. The only time we play well defensively is when Ed is on the floor like you saw last night.

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12-04-2012, 07:12 AM	#2 (permalink)
rapsmannn is happy with our core players Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 2,308 Representing:	casey has to commit to 3 big man rotation, its just not enough minutes for four guys to play

12-04-2012, 09:17 AM	#3 (permalink)
gdaytday is yanking on his tunic and dangling his stash. Chairman of the Boards Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 836 Representing:	I don't think that Ed should play at the expense of minutes for Jonas. Jonas has a much greater upside. But I agree...I think Davis has earned more playing time.

12-04-2012, 09:39 AM	#4 (permalink)
RAPMAN is pounding the rock! Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1,673 Representing:	The Spurs game has really raised the confidence of Ed Davis. We need fresh legs, I think a 4 big man rotation is fine. No way we sacrifice the minutes of Val for Ed Davis. Minutes should taken away from Bargnani. I think the chemistry and energy of Amir and Ed Davis is really picking up. I like to see more Ed Davis and Jonas on the floor. Ed Davis has always had a lack of consistency and focus. The spark and jump of Jonas would help Ed Davis.

12-04-2012, 10:36 AM	#5 (permalink)
carp is the rebirth of thick Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Toronto Posts: 10,651 Representing:	I think Amir should be shipped out. Give ed his minutes and you won't see a drop off.... give up Amir, along with something else and see what you can get. JV must not lose any minutes.

12-04-2012, 10:48 AM	#7 (permalink)
JoeyJoJo Shabbadu is payin Dwyane Wade Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 1,554 Representing:	I would like to see way more of Ed and Jonas on the floor together.

12-04-2012, 10:49 AM	#8 (permalink)
LET'S GO RAPTORS!!!!! is Kyle and Amir are the best Raptors! + Jonas is next. Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Posts: 4,317 Representing:	the guy needs minutes. whenever he plays, he produces. he also has a good idea of what he can and can't do. agreed that he has that other level or two which he could get to.

12-04-2012, 11:21 AM	#11 (permalink)
pzabby is COYS! gotta get meself into lawschool after 3 years of undergrad Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: toronto Posts: 5,451 Representing:	davis isn't good enough to get minutes against the other teams' starters and still produce well. he's not good enough to bench Bargnani over, not yet anyways, and in my eyes never will be. it's much better to have 2 7 footers on the floor than one, trust me, the mere fact that they're both there makes it intimidating to drive. especially given that bargnani's defence is starting to pick up again, working its way up to pre injury form and his offence is picking up too. yesterday was one of the few games we got out rebounded badly, even with Bargnani we're a good rebounding team with lowry, JV, and emergence of Demar. Davis should not take away minutes from bargnani, or JV. amir? sure, but not our two starting bigs. just. not. good. enough

12-04-2012, 05:38 PM	#15 (permalink)
Kirby is don't lurk me bro. Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 5,404 Representing:	Casspi is garbage, please don't ask for him anymore.

12-04-2012, 06:29 PM	#16 (permalink)
Metallikid is we may as well be the Queens Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,305 Representing:	Easy answer - trade Bargnani.

12-04-2012, 07:38 PM	#19 (permalink)
Raptors1995 is it's time to empty the trash Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,025 Representing:	Ed Davis definitely deserves more minutes. He's close to 6 and 6 in 15 minutes. He's a trade asset as it is, but if he was let's say 10 and 8-9 with some more playing time, he could net us a really good return.

12-04-2012, 07:39 PM	#20 (permalink)
Raptors1995 is it's time to empty the trash Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,025 Representing:	Amir Johnson for Wilson Chandler