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fk24 12-04-2012 04:49 AM

Ed Davis needs starters minutes
 
Whether that means sitting Bargnani or JV, although I think it woul work better playing with Bargnani. The only time we play well defensively is when Ed is on the floor like you saw last night.

rapsmannn 12-04-2012 08:12 AM

casey has to commit to 3 big man rotation, its just not enough minutes for four guys to play

gdaytday 12-04-2012 10:17 AM

I don't think that Ed should play at the expense of minutes for Jonas. Jonas has a much greater upside.

But I agree...I think Davis has earned more playing time.

RAPMAN 12-04-2012 10:39 AM

The Spurs game has really raised the confidence of Ed Davis. We need fresh legs, I think a 4 big man rotation is fine. No way we sacrifice the minutes of Val for Ed Davis. Minutes should taken away from Bargnani. I think the chemistry and energy of Amir and Ed Davis is really picking up. I like to see more Ed Davis and Jonas on the floor. Ed Davis has always had a lack of consistency and focus. The spark and jump of Jonas would help Ed Davis.

carp 12-04-2012 11:36 AM

I think Amir should be shipped out. Give ed his minutes and you won't see a drop off.... give up Amir, along with something else and see what you can get.

JV must not lose any minutes.

thought 12-04-2012 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by carp (Post 713991)
I think Amir should be shipped out. Give ed his minutes and you won't see a drop off.... give up Amir, along with something else and see what you can get.

JV must not lose any minutes.

agreed. i love amir, but I think we've seen the limit of what he can do. Ed Davis has another level (or two) to his game and is already interchangeable with Amir. Even if you do believe Amir is a cut better, the temporary minor dropoff would be worth it in the long-run.

JoeyJoJo Shabbadu 12-04-2012 11:48 AM

I would like to see way more of Ed and Jonas on the floor together.

LET'S GO RAPTORS!!!!! 12-04-2012 11:49 AM

the guy needs minutes. whenever he plays, he produces. he also has a good idea of what he can and can't do. agreed that he has that other level or two which he could get to.

LET'S GO RAPTORS!!!!! 12-04-2012 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by JoeyJoJo Shabbadu (Post 713994)
I would like to see way more of Ed and Jonas on the floor together.

agreed.

thought 12-04-2012 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by JoeyJoJo Shabbadu (Post 713994)
I would like to see way more of Ed and Jonas on the floor together.

word. still a little raw offensively, but you can't knock the shot-blocking and the rebounding.

i like that both guys can get up and down the floor.

pzabby 12-04-2012 12:21 PM

davis isn't good enough to get minutes against the other teams' starters and still produce well. he's not good enough to bench bargnani over, not yet anyways, and in my eyes never will be. it's much better to have 2 7 footers on the floor than one, trust me, the mere fact that they're both there makes it intimidating to drive.

especially given that bargnani's defence is starting to pick up again, working its way up to pre injury form and his offence is picking up too. yesterday was one of the few games we got out rebounded badly, even with bargnani we're a good rebounding team with lowry, JV, and emergence of Demar.

Davis should not take away minutes from bargnani, or JV. amir? sure, but not our two starting bigs. just. not. good. enough

carp 12-04-2012 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by pzabby (Post 714012)
davis isn't good enough to get minutes against the other teams' starters and still produce well. he's not good enough to bench bargnani over, not yet anyways, and in my eyes never will be. it's much better to have 2 7 footers on the floor than one, trust me, the mere fact that they're both there makes it intimidating to drive.

especially given that bargnani's defence is starting to pick up again, working its way up to pre injury form and his offence is picking up too. yesterday was one of the few games we got out rebounded badly, even with bargnani we're a good rebounding team with lowry, JV, and emergence of Demar.

Davis should not take away minutes from bargnani, or JV. amir? sure, but not our two starting bigs. just. not. good. enough

Agreed. It's Amir. He's gotta lose time. Send him out, as much as I like the kid, and get back Casspi or some young, athletic SF kid.

moremilk 12-04-2012 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by pzabby (Post 714012)
it's much better to have 2 7 footers on the floor than one, trust me, the mere fact that they're both there makes it intimidating to drive.

really? can't say I noticed anybody being intimidated so far ...

carp 12-04-2012 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by moremilk (Post 714130)
really? can't say I noticed anybody being intimidated so far ...

Every team has some role players coming in against us looking to light the candle!

Kirby 12-04-2012 06:38 PM

Casspi is garbage, please don't ask for him anymore.

Metallikid 12-04-2012 07:29 PM

Easy answer - trade Bargnani.

LET'S GO RAPTORS!!!!! 12-04-2012 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Metallikid (Post 714217)
Easy answer - trade Bargnani.

Okay. For what/whom?

carp 12-04-2012 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Kirby (Post 714205)
Casspi is garbage, please don't ask for him anymore.

Completely disagree.

Raptors1995 12-04-2012 08:38 PM

Ed Davis definitely deserves more minutes. He's close to 6 and 6 in 15 minutes. He's a trade asset as it is, but if he was let's say 10 and 8-9 with some more playing time, he could net us a really good return.

Raptors1995 12-04-2012 08:39 PM

Amir Johnson for Wilson Chandler


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