Dwane Casey used Brookly Nets’ run to test his team in win
Old 01-13-2014, 11:36 AM   #1 (permalink)
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So heres a little insight into Casey's horrible decision making skills. Its not lack of competence, hes prob just employing a little team test ...I guess we passed his test?

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There was an odd moment in the Toronto Raptors’ game against the Brooklyn Nets on Saturday, and it had nothing to do with Drake.
Drake in the spotlight, but Raptors steal show in win over Nets


At the start of the third quarter, the Raptors led by five points. It took just 83 seconds for the Nets to tie the game. It took 41 more seconds for the Nets to take the lead. The Raptors did not manage a single field goal for more than five minutes, and were glaringly sloppy in offence.

Yet head coach Dwane Casey waited more than six minutes to call a timeout, by which point there had been a 15-point swing from the start of the half. Part of Casey’s reasoning: He wanted to see how his growing team responded to the Nets’ run. Also: He could not think of much to say.

“At [halftime], we had talked about coming out and playing hard,” Casey said. “That was the main thing. I felt like we had just talked about playing hard. I can burn a timeout, but what good is it going to do at that time?”

Reserves Patrick Patterson and Chuck Hayes came in after the timeout, and helped turn the game around. The Raptors took the lead in the final minute of a quarter, and never trailed again.
Toronto Raptors coach Dwane Casey used Brooklyn Nets’ run to test his team in win | National Post
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Old 01-13-2014, 11:43 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I was freaking out that he didn't call a timeout but I have to agree with the reasoning.
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Old 01-13-2014, 11:44 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I don't see the problem here. They just discussed the game plan during halftime and the team didn't start the 3rd as they were supposed to. He handled that by showing the "deal with it" way. Pop used to do that as well. Now it's the time to explore and test if this team is solid or soft. Rest assure MU is involved in this as well. I still don't get what you are trying to say.
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Yep, sometimes in game, things are frustrating but then you see the reasoning. How many times should you have to say "play hard?" (and that was basically what was needed.)

He thought "time for them to show what they're made of," and the responded later on in the Q.
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Old 01-13-2014, 12:20 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I was freaking out that he didn't call a timeout but I have to agree with the reasoning.
I don't agree with the reasoning. Its only a timeout. Its like leaving a goalie in for the 6th goal with its 5-0. Its shitty and they need help advice and a plan and maybe a change of personnel.

I don't recall the players on the floor, but for some of them, that's a poor decision.
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He thought "time for them to show what they're made of," and the responded later on in the Q.
They did, mostly due to the bench players (PP/JS)
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Old 01-13-2014, 12:29 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I still don't understand the whole purpose of this thread. It should be under the Fire Casey thread since every decision made by DC should be heavily criticizes, even if it's for the long haul... Seriously though, this is how you build toughness and maturity. It's not new and I am not surprised.
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benching the starters earlier and letting the bench win the game might have set a stronger message.

But lets face it. 90% of coaching in the NBA is handling the egos. And only DC knows what is going on there.
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I was freaking out that he didn't call a timeout but I have to agree with the reasoning.
Same here.
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I don't agree with the reasoning. Its only a timeout. Its like leaving a goalie in for the 6th goal with its 5-0. Its shitty and they need help advice and a plan and maybe a change of personnel.

I don't recall the players on the floor, but for some of them, that's a poor decision.
I don't agree fully with that, you can talk till your blue in the face about game planning, advice, whatever but there needs to be that moment where you let the players go and either sink or swim. I know Pop was brought up but Phil did that a lot and a few other HoF coaches and current coaches. These are the moments players trust that if a mistake is made they're not immediately yanked off the floor.
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sometimes as a coach you have to step back a bit and let the players take responsibility...let them come together as a team
driving the same message over and over again is simply redundant and you risk the possibility of the players tuning you out

if this is indeed what happened then it tells me Casey is maturing right along with the players
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sometimes as a coach you have to step back a bit and let the players take responsibility...let them come together as a team
driving the same message over and over again is simply redundant and you risk the possibility of the players tuning you out

if this is indeed what happened then it tells me Casey is maturing right along with the players
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Thats a weird reasoning. Has "lets not foul with 12 sec left" written all over it

You don't call timeout to "say something". Have nothing to say call it anyway. Break opponent rhythm, let players gather themselves.
Stare them down, break a clipboard, whatever.

If that decision cost us the game everyone would point fingers at Casey.
Game was difficult anyway with refs going haywire.

Luckily Demar stepped up and PP followed

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Stare them down, break a clipboard, whatever.
showing up your players courtside ?...stupid and juvenile...do it privately at halftime or after a game...then you can REALLY peel some paint off the walls

now if you want to occasionally go all "Bobby Knight" on the refs asses ?...i'm all in
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that's what popovic always does, but I'm not sure it's a great idea. I guess if you have a team full of savvy veterans, it's a bit different.

that being said, I sometimes wish coaches wouldn't be so predictable in calling timeouts everytime there's a little run.


still, if the coach wants to experiment and we lose a game because of it, that's fine - this is the time to do it, not in the playoffs ...
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Yeah, that wasn't an experiment though. That was knowing his team and trusting them to execute. I much prefer to see a coach keeping the game in perspective and ensuring the best 48 minutes he can get will come through, by relying on the team's identity, as opposed to micromanaging and over-reacting. This team has grown up a lot. He no longer needs to constantly shout out directions defensively. He no longer has to monitor all the straying from what they want to do and try to fix it up with panicky experimenting. The rotations are set, they know who they are as a team, and have enough of an identity that they can adhere to in order to pull through tough runs and stay even keel. What's the first thing that happens with young teams when the bleeding needs to stop? They all take turns trying to do too much by themselves. We're beyond that now, with a ways to go yet, but it's a big corner to have gotten around.
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I think the player's may have thought he was going to call a timeout, but when he didn't, their reaction was to reward him by cleaning up their act, because the message in not calling the time out was " I trust you". From that point on, they were ferocious with a closing run 44-18.
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looks like he took a page out of phil jacksons book
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It offers some proof that the coach is no longer the only source of leadership, and that's pretty essential. Ask Jay Triano how snapping clipboards worked for him.
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