Draft Food for Thought
Old 06-25-2009, 12:19 PM   #1 (permalink)
convinced that Raptors fans are only happy when they're unhappy.

Retired Administrator
 
Dr. J. Naismith's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Almonte
Posts: 10,245
Representing:
Default Draft Food for Thought

Just read this over at the RealGM courtesy of one of their members dagger. (or accfan for those that posted at ESPN years ago)

Good read

Quote:
Originally Posted by dagger
Okay, here's the thing:

Agents do GMs favors and vice versa. Agents can make players available for workouts, negotiate first with certain teams on behalf of free agents, even strike deals to point a particular draftee towards a particular team (Think Kobe and Arn Tellum, or Andris Biedrins and Bill Duffy) etc.

Dan Fegan represents Jrue Holiday. He also represents Shawn Marion, Kris Humphries and Reggie Evans. We had no trouble getting to see Holiday work out.

Aaron Goodwin represents Demar Derozan, but no Raptor (and from his client list, I don't think he represented any Phoenix players at the end of BC's tenure with the Suns). We didn't get to see DD in a competitive workout.

Now, whoever we don't draft tonight could fall a few spots and become this year's Gerald Green - although I think JH, DD and JJ all have much better futures than GG. But come the 9th pick, it will be beneficial to the agent to lock in his guy. Because BC does business with Fegan - and certainly got a fair extension for Hump and assuming the War Room remains divided, does he opt for Holiday because of that comfort level with Fegan? Does Fegan return the favor with Marion - not demanding less money necessarily, but structuring the deal in a way BC finds more pallitable - say, front-loading the contract so that salaries decline, maybe even pushing some money into a fourth, only partially guaranteed year so that the annual hit is smaller?

Fegan can be a GM's worst nightmare, but I suspect there is mutual respect there between BC and Fegan.

(We'll never know the answer to this question, but if we wrap up Marion fast, with little fanfare, it could give you a clue...)
Dr. J. Naismith is offline   Boss Key Wife Key Reply With Quote
Old 06-25-2009, 01:03 PM   #2 (permalink)
set adrift on a memory bliss of you.

Reptars
 
AR1815's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 890
Representing:
Default

I think agents' jobs depend on getting the best deal possible for every single one of their clients. I doubt that an agent would really make decisions that could help a team over their clients.
AR1815 is offline   Boss Key Wife Key Reply With Quote
Old 06-25-2009, 01:50 PM   #3 (permalink)
a gearbox of epic proportions.

Banned
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 1,051
Representing:
Send a message via MSN to B-RAD
Default

bryan has an edge over other gm's but, i don't think by that much.
B-RAD is offline   Boss Key Wife Key Reply With Quote
Old 06-25-2009, 02:29 PM   #4 (permalink)
whatever

Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: toronto
Posts: 10,165
Representing:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by AR1815 View Post
I think agents' jobs depend on getting the best deal possible for every single one of their clients. I doubt that an agent would really make decisions that could help a team over their clients.
that might be a simplistic approach. By forging good relations with teams, agents stand a good chance of getting better deals for all future players ...

Last edited by moremilk; 06-25-2009 at 02:32 PM.
moremilk is offline   Boss Key Wife Key Reply With Quote
Old 06-25-2009, 02:51 PM   #5 (permalink)
set adrift on a memory bliss of you.

Reptars
 
AR1815's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 890
Representing:
Default

Sure they do. But I doubt an agent would take a lesser deal for his client just to forge a better relationship with a team/GM. Their job, no matter how simple this sounds, is to get the best deal for the player, that's it. Do you think Marion would be happy knowing that he could've gotten more money with another agent just because BC and his agent were looking out for one another?
AR1815 is offline   Boss Key Wife Key Reply With Quote
Old 06-25-2009, 03:15 PM   #6 (permalink)
is pounding the rock!

Senior Member
 
Superjudge's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 17,592
Representing:
Default

Good post, and he's right. I know for a fact it happens in Hockey, and I'm sure it happens in all sports as well. It's nice to read a post like that, I like that stuff.
Superjudge is offline   Boss Key Wife Key Reply With Quote
Old 06-25-2009, 03:17 PM   #7 (permalink)
landry fields forever

Administrator

 
Acie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Living in a van down by the river
Posts: 21,892
Representing:
Default

Damn straight!

Anyone remember how often we scratched Bill Duffy's back in the past and vice versa?
Acie is offline   Boss Key Wife Key Reply With Quote
Old 06-25-2009, 03:22 PM   #8 (permalink)
LX
effin' ineffable

In the Paint


 
LX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Toronto
Posts: 29,525
Representing:
Default

Yeah - it's not about overtly getting an agent to look past his client's interests. It's just developing relationships where everyone feels well served. Why am I thinking about threesomes suddenly? Threesomes with kinky backscratching?
LX is offline   Boss Key Wife Key Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Food Inc germain Entertainment Lounge 18 12-15-2009 07:50 PM
New Food menu at the ACC jeffb Toronto Raptors 17 09-19-2009 07:57 PM
Recycled Food Someguy again Entertainment Lounge 2 08-12-2009 05:08 PM
NBA Draft Food for thought Superjudge Toronto Raptors 19 05-05-2009 11:28 AM
Food for Thought Benzo Entertainment Lounge 25 07-07-2008 08:02 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:21 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2015, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright RaptorsForum.com 2005-2011

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24