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Old 08-13-2009, 04:29 PM   #1 (permalink)
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These days people seem to think Triano is awful. He's actually an amazing coach.
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Of all that excites Bryan Colangelo in this summer of change -- and so much does -- nothing gets him quite as enthusiastic as talking about his new coach.

Jay Triano wasn't the easy hire or the obvious hire but as August begins and the Raptors training camp is almost two months away, it's apparent that if Colangelo liked Triano before, he's crazy about him now.

"It's not just me," Colangelo said on the telephone. "I'm getting glowing reports from USA Basketball about Jay. I'm getting glowing reports from Mike Krzyzewski and (my father) Jerry Colangelo about what he's doing at the U.S. camp.

"It's one thing when you think you see something. It's something else when others see the same thing you do. It just feels good. It feels good in terms of our relationship, it feels good in terms of the structure of our team. You need certain things to be successful and coaching is a big part of it. I just see a guy growing into the job and I can't wait to get going."

On the day Colangelo officially hired Triano, they had a public disagreement in the smallest sense. It was Triano's belief, having coached most of the last horrible Raptors season, that his team lacked depth, lacked fight, lacked character, lacked grit. He wanted all of that addressed in the off-season. Colangelo, still too close to the last team and his constant reminders that this was the best Raptors roster ever, wouldn't necessarily back away from that viewpoint.

Only his actions this summer have been more Triano and less status quo. Colangelo has basically blown up his roster -- changing seven of the 10 key players on any National Basketball Association team and not surprisingly altering the depth, the fight, the character, the grit, and even the athleticism of the Raptors.

Is this a championship team? Highly unlikely, especially in an Eastern Conference with Cleveland, Orlando and Boston.

Is this a playoff team? Absolutely. This could or should be a 45- to 50-win team, barring injuries, and the usual problems losing teams encounter.

"I never like to pre-judge any of this (off-season) stuff," Colangelo said. "You do what you think is right. You do it every year. Then you play the games and see what happens."

In what likely is Triano's starting lineup, a healthy Jose Calderon returns at point guard, with probably rookie Demar DeRozan playing shooting guard instead of Anthony Parker and Hedo Turkoglu at small forward instead of Shawn Marion or before that Jamario Moon. Chris Bosh is Chris Bosh and Andrea Bargnani is Andrea Bargnani: A better starting lineup than last year.

But the big difference is on the bench, where Colangelo spent a lot of the winter talking about the return of Carlos Delfino, which never really materialized and didn't really have to.

Jarrett Jack will play the point on the second unit, with Marco Belinelli at shooting guard, Antoine Wright at small forward, Reggie Evans at power forward and Rasho Nesterovic at centre. The possibilities are many.

Jack is good enough to start on some NBA teams; Belinelli had a string of 20-point games last season which shows what he can do when he gets minutes; Wright is a superb defender; Evans is the kind of nasty rebounder the Raps so badly need and Nesterovic is one of those glue-guy intelligent centres of marginal talent but decent value.

"It's played out nicely," Colangelo said. "We had some goals and objectives and hopefully we met them. It starts in training camp and I know Jay is already planning the camp. Right now, things feel good. It feels good in terms or our relationship and how we're going about doing this. I'm just excited to get going, to see how everything works out."

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These days people seem to think Triano is awful. He's actually an amazing coach.
Amazing? That's a stretch to say the least.
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Dude this was posted like two weeks ago!
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Dude this was posted like two weeks ago!
i never saw it.
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I posted something like this.
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Old 08-13-2009, 05:45 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Sorry, wasnt here two weeks ago.
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OMG who was the person the voted no. I have no clue *cough* jeffb *cough*
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I got a chance to meet Mr Triano when he was here working for the Grizzlies and also went to a couple of camps he had up at SFU........the man knows basketball. He is a good X's and O's coach and he is a players coach. He will just be the easiest scapegoat if this new team doesn't produce.
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why do people dislike this guy so much? if kevin o'neill can get an entire season, and sam mitchell. what the hell is wrong with him getting the reins and implementing his own philosophy with his own staff and vision. if anything, i'd say it's better to have the coach and the gm on the same page, rather than them clashing over the direction the team should go in.
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LOL - one of my best friends played him in a game of hourse at NBA 3 on 3 in Moncton and beat him. Just saying..

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OMG who was the person the voted no. I have no clue *cough* jeffb *cough*
There are now 4. BTW i'm shocked that 17 have voted that they think he's a good coach when there is little to nothing that proves it in the least. Then again, such is the life of a Canadian born coach who has proven little.
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Old 08-13-2009, 10:35 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I don't think we've seen enough of him to make an adequate judgment on whether he is a good coach or not (something never simple to determine in the first place). But he seems knowledgeable and is receiving positive feedback from his peers, and Colangelo, of course, so I think he'll do well

I think a question which asked whether we were satisfied with his selection as head coach would have been more appropriate than one asking us to judge his abilities.
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The real question is....Would you rather have JT or....Smitch
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First of all, Triano has to be a decent coach if he has reached NBA/National team level. Will he be the right head coach for this team next year? Nobody can know right now, he was leading a disrupted and injured team for most of the past season. Only time will tell, but saying he is good or bad right now doesnt have much sense.
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There are now 4. BTW i'm shocked that 17 have voted that they think he's a good coach when there is little to nothing that proves it in the least. Then again, such is the life of a Canadian born coach who has proven little.
same old same old. guy's proven himself to a GM you deify on a regular basis. thinking he got the job simply because he's canadian pretty much shows the level of your analytical skills.
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same old same old. guy's proven himself to a GM you deify on a regular basis. thinking he got the job simply because he's canadian pretty much shows the level of your analytical skills.
I never said he got the job because he's Canadian, and i don't know where you saw me say that?

What i'm saying is, some who think he's an "amazing coach" are basing that on alot of nothing. Therefore it seems to me that saying this guy who's unproven is a good coach seems to be because he's Canadian. Not everyone, but some. And anyone that denies that some feel that way are delusional.
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I like Triano, and yes he did come in part way through the season and changed the entire flow of the offense (from half-court to free-flowing suns offense)

Give him a chance, we'll see what he can do with his own training camp this year. Plus we have Alvin Williams as a assistant coach this year
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Jay Triano returns for his fourth season as a member of the Raptors’ coaching staff. He became the first Canadian born and Canadian trained coach in the NBA when he served as an assistant coach to Lenny Wilkens during the 2002-03 season.

A native of Niagara Falls, Triano was the head coach of the Canadian men’s national team from 1998-2004 posting a 52-42 (.553) record. He led Canada to a semifinal berth in the 2003 FIBA Americas Olympic Qualifying Tournament in Puerto Rico and to a 5-2 record, second best to the United States, in the 2000 Olympics.

In addition to his duties with Canada Basketball, Triano worked six years as a radio analyst and director of community relations for the Vancouver Grizzlies. He moved to Toronto from Vancouver in 2001 to work as a basketball analyst for TSN.

Triano began his coaching career in 1985 as an assistant at his alma mater Simon Fraser University in Burnaby, British Columbia. He took over the school’s head coaching duties in 1988 and served in that capacity until 1995. In 1992-93, he also worked as an assistant coach on the Canadian men’s national team and in 1993-94 he was the head coach of the Canadian men’s junior national team.

During his collegiate playing career at Simon Fraser, Triano led the Clansmen in scoring all four seasons and set 11 school records, including the career scoring mark of 2,616 points. He was also a member of the football team during his senior season. In 1981, he was drafted by the Los Angeles Lakers in the eighth round of the NBA Draft and by the Calgary Stampeders in the sixth round in the CFL Draft.

Following graduation, Triano played for the Canadian national team for 11 years (1978-88) and was team captain from 1981-88. He represented Canada as a player on three Olympic teams (1980, 1984 and 1988), serving as captain for the last two.

Triano also wore his country’s colours internationally in the World University Games in 1979, 1981 and 1983 where he led the tournament in scoring and Canada to the gold medal, and in 1985 in Kobe, Japan where he carried the Canadian flag at the opening ceremonies.

Triano is a member of the Canadian Basketball, Canadian Olympic, Basketball British Columbia, Basketball Ontario, Simon Fraser Athletic and Niagara Falls Halls of Fame.

In April 2005, Triano was honoured by the Raptors with the Coach Mac Award, given annually to a member of the Canadian basketball community who through exemplary character and effort, has made a major contribution to the sport of basketball while upholding the principles for which Coach Mac stood – honesty, integrity, competitiveness and a love of the game. Triano played for Coach John B. McLendon as a member of Team Canada.


Yeah what a basketball douche bag! BC should fire him as soon as he shows up tomorrow. It doesn't mean shit that he took our stellar Canadian Mens Basketball team and actually had a winning record in International play.It doesn't matter that before Steve Nash he was the face of canuck basketball.It doesn't matter that he gets ringing endorsements from some of the best basketball minds in the game! Fuck em!

I guess some of the poster's here that have a hard on for him can list their accomplishments of what they have done for the game of basketball and post their coaching records here
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I like Triano, and yes he did come in part way through the season and changed the entire flow of the offense (from half-court to free-flowing suns offense)

Give him a chance, we'll see what he can do with his own training camp this year. Plus we have Alvin Williams as a assistant coach this year
I don't think he's a good coach, but he's our coach and i only want the team to succeed, so i'm willing to see what happens. And with the upgrades made to the Roster ( Thank you BC) i think we'll be fine. Either way, i'm getting anxious for the season to start and there is still 2+ months until then.
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