Does anyone miss Chris Bosh - Page 6
Old 04-07-2011, 09:49 PM   #101 (permalink)
"We were making progress, until Garnett [expletive] everything up"

Senior Member
 
forme123's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 563
Representing:
Default

bosh is basically a more poised version of Bargnani that can rebound...nothing more
forme123 is offline   Boss Key Wife Key Reply With Quote
Old 04-07-2011, 09:52 PM   #102 (permalink)
"We were making progress, until Garnett [expletive] everything up"

Senior Member
 
forme123's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 563
Representing:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by TORaptor4Ever View Post
I recall reading somewhere that part of the reason that Bosh slimmed down in the off-season was to be quicker and more mobile.... can't be sure though.

Regardless... I think that you're reaching to put Bargs, VC and Bosh all in the same sentence. You can't argue that Bosh gave it his all while he was under contract to us. You may not have liked the way that he left... but he busted his ass when he was here (unless you think he could have put up 25 + 15?).
ya okay...he wasnt lazy or anything, but lets not act like hes the ultimate workhorse....only thing he busted was his nose at the end of the 09/10 season, then sat out the remaining games when he was cleared to play and we missed the playoffs....a true leader to build around.....yeah okay there....
forme123 is offline   Boss Key Wife Key Reply With Quote
Old 04-07-2011, 10:14 PM   #103 (permalink)
is the baby faced assassin

Senior Member
 
jeffb's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: YO MAMMA
Posts: 76,150
Representing:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by forme123 View Post
bosh is basically a more poised version of Bargnani that can rebound...nothing more
So, he's a big (smaller then Bargs) that can score (more efficiently), rebound better, get to the line and is more poised. Thanks for clearing that up.


But nothing more right?
jeffb is online now   Boss Key Wife Key Reply With Quote
Old 04-07-2011, 10:18 PM   #104 (permalink)
#NorthernUprising

Next year...
 
js12's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: T.O.
Posts: 5,578
Representing:
Default

I miss the winning, but I don't miss him.

I think the Raptors need to move on from Bosh and try a different way to build a team.
js12 is online now   Boss Key Wife Key Reply With Quote
Old 04-07-2011, 10:21 PM   #105 (permalink)
"We were making progress, until Garnett [expletive] everything up"

Senior Member
 
forme123's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 563
Representing:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jeffb View Post
So, he's a big (smaller then Bargs) that can score (more efficiently), rebound better, get to the line and is more poised. Thanks for clearing that up.


But nothing more right?
ya Bosh is more efficient around the net (which is why he gets to line more), doesnt have Bargs outside range tho and i think Bargs is the better overall shooter, both shit defenders....... so ya hes better than bargs, not much more....whats ur point?
forme123 is offline   Boss Key Wife Key Reply With Quote
Old 04-07-2011, 10:27 PM   #106 (permalink)
is the baby faced assassin

Senior Member
 
jeffb's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: YO MAMMA
Posts: 76,150
Representing:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by forme123 View Post
ya Bosh is more efficient around the net (which is why he gets to line more), doesnt have Bargs outside range tho and i think Bargs is the better overall shooter, both shit defenders....... so ya hes better than bargs, not much more....whats ur point?
Not much more? My point is that he is quite a bit better. And as far as Bargnani being a better shooter that's bullshit. He has better range, sure but if you look at shooting percentages Bosh is the better shooter (Bargnani is shooting 33 3PT%). Plus i would say Bosh is a better help defender as well. And also Bosh has more heart and seems to care a hell of a lot more then Bargnani does. Plus, it's funny that Bosh is averaging 19/8 this season and many think he's having a poor season. I wish Bargnani gave us those numbers.

Last edited by jeffb; 04-07-2011 at 10:31 PM.
jeffb is online now   Boss Key Wife Key Reply With Quote
Old 04-07-2011, 10:32 PM   #107 (permalink)
"We were making progress, until Garnett [expletive] everything up"

Senior Member
 
forme123's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 563
Representing:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jeffb View Post
Not much more? My point is that he is quite a bit better. And as far as Bargnani being a better shooter that's bullshit. He has better range, sure but if you look at shooting percentages Bosh is the better shooter (Bargnani is shooting 33 3PT%). Plus i would say Bosh is a better help defender as well. And also Bosh has more heart and seems to care a hell of a lot more then Bargnani does.
i am aware you would be using percentages against me, but i still honestly think watching Bosh during his time with the raps, his shooting was overrated. he had high percentages because of his efficiency around the net (something Bargs doesnt do enough, which is why his shooting percentage suffers). his midrange game was streaky at best, he often missed open shots, took stupid contested shots near the end of games. his one go-to move was the fake pump/quick step and drive to the lane he always did, that was the one way he worked efficiently...just my personal opinion, i think Bargs is more naturally skilled shooter than bosh...because if we are going to use stats, then wouldnt Bargs 22 points suggests he is pretty damn close offensively to Bosh when he was a raptor? just saying...stats are often good indicators, but not always

Last edited by forme123; 04-07-2011 at 10:34 PM.
forme123 is offline   Boss Key Wife Key Reply With Quote
Old 04-07-2011, 10:38 PM   #108 (permalink)
is the baby faced assassin

Senior Member
 
jeffb's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: YO MAMMA
Posts: 76,150
Representing:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by forme123 View Post
i am aware you would be using percentages against me, but i still honestly think watching Bosh during his time with the raps, his shooting was overrated. he had high percentages because of his efficiency around the net (something Bargs doesnt do enough, which is why his shooting percentage suffers). his midrange game was streaky at best, he often missed open shots, took stupid contested shots near the end of games. his one go-to move was the fake pump/quick step and drive to the lane he always did, that was the one way he worked efficiently...just my personal opinion, i think Bargs is more naturally skilled shooter than bosh...because if we are going to use stats, then wouldnt Bargs 22 points suggests he is pretty damn close offensively to Bosh when he was a raptor? just saying...stats are often good indicators, but not always
His mid range games is less streaky then Bargnani's supposed strength (shooting from deep) and it isn't even close. If you honestly believe that Bosh isn't much better then Bargnani then i have nothing more to say except i think you're way off.
jeffb is online now   Boss Key Wife Key Reply With Quote
Old 04-07-2011, 10:44 PM   #109 (permalink)
raps are back!

Senior Member
 
ha123's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 562
Representing:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by forme123 View Post
i am aware you would be using percentages against me, but i still honestly think watching Bosh during his time with the raps, his shooting was overrated. he had high percentages because of his efficiency around the net (something Bargs doesnt do enough, which is why his shooting percentage suffers). his midrange game was streaky at best, he often missed open shots, took stupid contested shots near the end of games. his one go-to move was the fake pump/quick step and drive to the lane he always did, that was the one way he worked efficiently...just my personal opinion, i think Bargs is more naturally skilled shooter than bosh...because if we are going to use stats, then wouldnt Bargs 22 points suggests he is pretty damn close offensively to Bosh when he was a raptor? just saying...stats are often good indicators, but not always
So is being efficient around the net a bad thing now? Damn, I sure wish Bargs did that.

Call Bosh a pussy, bad defender, bad leader whatever. But he was sure one hell of an offensive player and is clearly a lot better than bargnani. IMO, he was a pretty good go to guy. However, he could not shoulder the load in late games because he was getting double teamed and we had no one else to help im out.
ha123 is offline   Boss Key Wife Key Reply With Quote
Old 04-07-2011, 11:18 PM   #110 (permalink)
the white Shack. true story

Member
 
Shack's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 170
Representing:
Default

do i miss coming in 9th instead of 14th.. nah not really
Shack is offline   Boss Key Wife Key Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2011, 12:03 AM   #111 (permalink)
Nasty, right? I cocked that joint back and banged on him!

Lackey
 
Ammo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: The Mighty North Tundra
Posts: 3,650
Representing:
Raptors

I miss the Vince rush.
Ammo is offline   Boss Key Wife Key Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2011, 01:01 AM   #112 (permalink)
I LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR LETTERS.

Craig Ferguson
 
Premiere's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: London
Posts: 1,032
Representing:
Default

I miss him because I have a Bosh jersey in my closet.
Premiere is offline   Boss Key Wife Key Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2011, 01:35 AM   #113 (permalink)
"We were making progress, until Garnett [expletive] everything up"

Senior Member
 
forme123's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 563
Representing:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ha123 View Post
So is being efficient around the net a bad thing now? Damn, I sure wish Bargs did that.

Call Bosh a pussy, bad defender, bad leader whatever. But he was sure one hell of an offensive player and is clearly a lot better than bargnani. IMO, he was a pretty good go to guy. However, he could not shoulder the load in late games because he was getting double teamed and we had no one else to help im out.
nope didnt say it was a bad thing, i wish Bargs was good in the paint
forme123 is offline   Boss Key Wife Key Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2011, 01:38 AM   #114 (permalink)
"We were making progress, until Garnett [expletive] everything up"

Senior Member
 
forme123's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 563
Representing:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Premiere View Post
I miss him because I have a Bosh jersey in my closet.
hahahaha if that is the case, then I miss TJ Ford, Hedo Turkoglu, leandro barbosa (assuming the likelihood he will be gone next season).

as for the blue jays, i miss rios, bj ryan, burnett.....fuck man i clearly should never buy jerseys ever again...every player i buy either turns to shit or leaves shortly after
forme123 is offline   Boss Key Wife Key Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2011, 02:19 AM   #115 (permalink)
in a battle for Eeyore's soul! Save him! For the dark side hath cookies!

Member
 
bladeofBG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 429
Representing:
Raptors

I'll show y'all what I miss here.

SF: Joey Graham, Luke Jackson, (Nicolas Batum)
PF: Chris Bosh, Kris Humphries, Maceo Baston
C : Andrea Bargnani, Rasho Nesterovic, Jorge Garbajosa
PG: T.J. Ford, Jose Calderon, Roko Leni-Ukic
SG: Anthony Parker, Morris Peterson, (Matt Lawrence)

That's a team that is perfect for Coach Triano's coaching philosophies, and he didn't have the chance to coach it.

-Joey's best year was his last w/us thus far, showing he was becoming a Garbo-type on defense w/much more offensive ability, both as a primary scorer and finisher/spot-up shooter

-Chris isn't a perfect fit for the Lebitch Heat, but the Raptors were HIS team, and it went nowhere not b/c of his lack, but b/c of horrid management by Bryan and horrid coaching by Smitch.

-Andrea is perfectly comfortable as a primary scorer, second option, or spot-up shooter, and he does have an impact on defense when he knows what kind of defensive effort he can expect from the 1st and 2nd lines of defense (we've all seen it before)

-There has yet to be a better point guard duo on any team since T.J. and Jose were manning the position for us. And he never had a problem w/Jose or any roster member; Bryan simply shipped him off b/c T.J. wasn't afraid to call him out for the huckster he is.

-Anthony Parker is one hell of a role player, and one hell of a veteran leader

-Luke is a forgotten guy, and while nobody cares about D-League stats, what he did last yr in Italy shows he's a true NBA talent, taking his team from Lega 2 to Lega 1; picture a slightly more athletic Jason Kapono who can also play the point guard position (or point forward)

-Hump is showing what he got, and most people knew he already had it in him while in Toronto, as he constantly showed this potential in 07-08 and 08-09 whenever he got burn; he also said that the group in 06-07 was the most closely knit locker room he's ever been in, thus showing that they not only had awsome potential together, but they also wanted to take it the furthest it can go

-Rasho had his best season in 07-08, and then Smitch inexplicably didn't play him vs. Dwight in our series vs. the Magic. Absolutely ridiculous, especially when you consider how well he played against him while in our uniform, and even when he was in Indiana vs. Dwight. And he was recently named MVP for his team in the Euroleague, showing he still has enough game in him to effectively spot Andrea

-Jose is one hell of a playmaker and leader, but our position was that much stronger when he shared responsibility w/T.J.

-MoPete, like Joey, hasn't gotten burn + touches the past few yrs b/c of politics, nothing more. Dude was a perennial 82gamer w/above average athleticism, killer work ethic, veteran leadership, low maintenance, good character, excellent defensive intensity, and a game that fits on ANY team, even now.

-Bryan moved the 17th pick in what is arguably the most complete draft ever in 2008; to think he passed on trading down and getting Nicolas in exchange for moving the pick entirely for a player we didn't even need (Jermaine O'Neal; keep in mind Rasho was having his best year, yet Smitch didn't play him in the series vs. Orlando, and Rasho historically plays awsome D vs Dwight, even in his time w/Indiana) is beyond all rational comprehension

-Maceo > than Joey Dorsey, Solomon Alabi, and Reggie Evans too.

-Garbo = awsome

-Roko is killing it in Europe the past 2yrs, as he's a 6'5 penetrating point guard who plays awsome defense; we could've certainly built up his value to trade him for even better stuff than what we got in return for him (and I like Sonny & Amir, but Roko & Carlos are bothstill proving to be the better players in that move; go check out his Euroleague or Turkish league games for yourself, and check out Carlos doing all the Anthony Parker type of stuff for the Bucks).

-Matt Lawrence, a guy who most people have never heard of, is better than alot of players that Bryan has brought here.


That team would've had depth on two units at least, excellent 1st & 2nd lines of defense, awsome ball movement, awsome floor spacing, plenty of floor spacing, guys who step up in crunchtime, defensive co-hesion, priceless chemistry, and playing to CONTEND instead of tryna get there or fucking use up years upon years of fucking coaching so many young players at once. It was butchered by Smitch 1st, and then outright destroyed by Bryan. That team had EVERYTHING a GM would want (and I've said before in another thread that I'm 100% convinced Bryan is involved in collusion to fuck us over, and still is).

But now we get to watch Reggie Evans!

Last edited by bladeofBG; 04-08-2011 at 02:24 AM.
bladeofBG is offline   Boss Key Wife Key Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2011, 07:48 AM   #116 (permalink)
is pounding the rock!

Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Toronto
Posts: 6,632
Representing:
Default

NO
Carlito is offline   Boss Key Wife Key Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2011, 10:26 AM   #117 (permalink)
"Fake All-Star"

Senior Member
 
TORaptor4Ever's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 16,432
Representing:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by forme123 View Post
i am aware you would be using percentages against me, but i still honestly think watching Bosh during his time with the raps, his shooting was overrated. he had high percentages because of his efficiency around the net (something Bargs doesnt do enough, which is why his shooting percentage suffers). his midrange game was streaky at best, he often missed open shots, took stupid contested shots near the end of games. his one go-to move was the fake pump/quick step and drive to the lane he always did, that was the one way he worked efficiently...just my personal opinion, i think Bargs is more naturally skilled shooter than bosh...because if we are going to use stats, then wouldnt Bargs 22 points suggests he is pretty damn close offensively to Bosh when he was a raptor? just saying...stats are often good indicators, but not always
I honestly can't believe that you're trying to argue this lol....

Bosh is to Bargs as Kobe is to Weems.

Take a look at the number of shots that both players took to get their numbers.... and then take a look at their respective FG%s.

Bosh also won us 4 games last season (would have been 5 if Kobe didn't beat us at the buzzer) in the last 30 secs so I'd say that he did pretty well "taking his stupid contested shots at the end of games".
TORaptor4Ever is offline   Boss Key Wife Key Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2011, 10:46 AM   #118 (permalink)
"We were making progress, until Garnett [expletive] everything up"

Senior Member
 
forme123's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 563
Representing:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by TORaptor4Ever View Post
I honestly can't believe that you're trying to argue this lol....

Bosh is to Bargs as Kobe is to Weems.

Take a look at the number of shots that both players took to get their numbers.... and then take a look at their respective FG%s.

Bosh also won us 4 games last season (would have been 5 if Kobe didn't beat us at the buzzer) in the last 30 secs so I'd say that he did pretty well "taking his stupid contested shots at the end of games".
LOL....the quote of somebody who loves Bosh and hates Bargs WAY TOO MUCH
forme123 is offline   Boss Key Wife Key Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2011, 10:50 AM   #119 (permalink)
"Fake All-Star"

Senior Member
 
TORaptor4Ever's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 16,432
Representing:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by forme123 View Post
LOL....the quote of somebody who loves Bosh and hates Bargs WAY TOO MUCH
Hate? You're the one trying to slam a 6-time all-star who avgd 24 + 11 for us last season. lol.

I have no clue why you feel the need to defend Bargs with such passion when he's done NOTHING to warrant such loyalty.
TORaptor4Ever is offline   Boss Key Wife Key Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2011, 11:06 AM   #120 (permalink)
"We were making progress, until Garnett [expletive] everything up"

Senior Member
 
forme123's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 563
Representing:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by TORaptor4Ever View Post
Hate? You're the one trying to slam a 6-time all-star who avgd 24 + 11 for us last season. lol.

I have no clue why you feel the need to defend Bargs with such passion when he's done NOTHING to warrant such loyalty.

the thing is I defend over exaggerated hate for him, people make him out to be worse than he actually is.....diff between me defending barg and you defending Bosh is, I admit Bargs faults, I dont think hes an allstar, i just think he is what he is and don't treat him like hes the worst player to ever wear a raps uniform like some people do on this forum...some of the things I hear you say about Bosh, you make him look like hes the second coming of christ, the guy was good for us, but man you just overrate him too much imo...thats all..
forme123 is offline   Boss Key Wife Key Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:30 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright RaptorsForum.com 2005-2011

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24