Do you think bosh needs to take more shot attempts?
Old 12-28-2009, 01:44 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Look at the nba FGA leaders:

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Bosh is 24th in the list, behind zach randolph and yet Bosh is averaging 23.5 ppg and is 7th in the league in scoring. Look at some of the players ahead of him in attempts: derrick rose? rudy gay? stephen jackson? rodney stuckey?
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Old 12-28-2009, 01:45 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Look at the nba FGA leaders:

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Bosh is 24th in the list, behind zach randolph and yet Bosh is averaging 23.5 ppg and is 7th in the league in scoring. Look at some of the players ahead of him in attempts: derrick rose? rudy gay? stephen jackson? rodney stuckey?
And look how successful their respective teams are...

if anything Bosh needs less touches...
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Old 12-28-2009, 01:48 PM   #3 (permalink)
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He's about right as of the last month.
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Old 12-28-2009, 01:53 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Look at the nba FGA leaders:

NBA.com:

Bosh is 24th in the list, behind zach randolph and yet Bosh is averaging 23.5 ppg and is 7th in the league in scoring. Look at some of the players ahead of him in attempts: derrick rose? rudy gay? stephen jackson? rodney stuckey?
bosh is extremely efficient but they have to limit his touch's to keep triano's pansy ass team unity/micky mouse high school system in place. That and hedo needs his 42% chucks

I definitely think they forget about CB sometimes and it usually burns them when they do
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sometimes they force it to him when he's double teamed and the other team pokes it away
just look for a player with good position, take the shot, box out for an O rebound
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Yeah - it would be so nice to see Bosh working more with Hedo and Bargnani and getting more assists anyway. But he's doing his job with the double coverages no matter what, and doing such a beautiful job of controlling the boards. His touch on the rebounds is fantastic this season. The improved balance with the greater strength has given him very good hands. That's ultimately where he needs to earn his pay.
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Old 12-28-2009, 02:02 PM   #7 (permalink)
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If the team wins, I don't care how many touches Bosh gets.

I'm not convinced that bigs are in a good position to take shots. Z-Bo is a bad example because he takes a litany of bad shots. Dirk isn't a good example, either, because he has much better range and is capable of getting a shot off from almost anywhere on the court so long as he leans into his defender first. There are so many shooters on the team that CB4 needs to worry about moving the ball around instead of taking more shots, and, given that he's not a good enough shooter to hoist them up from anywhere against any defender, he'll need to get the ball <16 feet in which is not a great starting point for getting a lot of shots up.
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Old 12-28-2009, 02:04 PM   #8 (permalink)
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This is why the only player I'd trade him for is Lebron. 2nd most efficient player in basketball.
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Old 12-28-2009, 02:05 PM   #9 (permalink)
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So he ranks 24th in the league in field goal attempts, but is top 8 in scoring. The franchise player shoots more than .515 from the floor, leads the league in double doubles, second in points in the paint, 3rd in free throw attempts, 5th in rebounding. Feed the beast!!! The main reason why he should get more touches, he is the only player that commands double teams.
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Old 12-28-2009, 03:04 PM   #10 (permalink)
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guys, remove your head from the statistics for a second and try to watch the game..

feeding him on every position in the last quarter could cost us a loss yesterday, remember ?
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Old 12-28-2009, 03:20 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I'm fine with the number of shots Bosh takes, it's more the manner in which he gets some of his shots that I wish would change.

His 5-8 second faceups constitute our least effective offensive possessions. The defense is allowed to get set so he can't get into the paint and all he has is a contested face up jumpshot.

I want to see him catch the ball within the flow of the offense, shoot the ball in rhythm, and make a decision before the defense gets set so he can maximize his options out of the pivot. He's by far at his best when he's decisive and aggressive. Same goes for Bargnani.
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Old 12-28-2009, 03:21 PM   #12 (permalink)
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No !! Well, it all depends on the situation. If Bosh is kicking ass then feed him but if he's gone cold then give someone else a chance. Simple as that.
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This is why the only player I'd trade him for is Lebron. 2nd most efficient player in basketball.
I'll take Kobe, D Wade and CP3
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Old 12-28-2009, 04:40 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Its illusory.

CB's shot attempts exceed the statistics — fouled touches that do not end in successful field goals are not accounted for.
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Old 12-28-2009, 04:52 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Its should not be about quantity of shots its about the quality of shots. Bosh draws alot of attention, actually more then anyone else on the team. If you watch we are so much better when Bosh kicks the ball back out. When Bosh moves the ball it is when we play the best. When we talk about lack of ball movement its about Bosh having crazy glue on his hands. Giving the ball to Bosh on a double team should work to our advantage as long as Bosh reads and reacts that moving the ball in that situation will create havoc on the opposition. The more you get the d moving in and out of double teams the easier it is to find that open man.
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Its illusory.

CB's shot attempts exceed the statistics fouled touches that do not end in successful field goals are not accounted for.
free throws are the most efficient shot in basketball behind dunks and open layups. No illusion to bosh's efficiency, he's effcient and it would probably benifit the team if hedo would give up some of his 40% chucks to CB(or andrea)
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free throws are the most efficient shot in basketball behind dunks and open layups. No illusion to bosh's efficiency, he's effcient and it would probably benifit the team if hedo would give up some of his 40% chucks to CB(or andrea)
Free throws are the most efficient scoring vehicle.

The illusion is the statistical observance of field goal attempts in that they do not include free throw attempts (save and1s) and thus yield an inaccurate view of overall shot attempts/touches.
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Old 12-29-2009, 01:42 AM   #18 (permalink)
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No. I think he needs to average more free throw attempts. That's the more efficient way to score, not more field goal attempts. Early in the season he was averaging over 15 FTA/game. He's down to 9.3 on the season, and only 7.5 in December.
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Old 12-29-2009, 04:15 AM   #19 (permalink)
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Quality over Quantity
Big men generally dont have too many FG attempts.
I guess since we have crap swingman, it would make sense for him to get more touches.
I would rather have Andrea get more touches; hence he is the closest thing we have to a good swingman, lol
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Old 12-29-2009, 04:19 AM   #20 (permalink)
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Bargs needs more shot attempts for sure
Bosh is just fine. Less jumpshots from iso, more dunks from Hedo
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