Dino Nation: Varying Degrees of Canadian Media
Old 10-21-2008, 10:32 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Good little read from James at Dino Nation on his take of the 5 networks who currently cover Raptors basketball or in Sportsnet's case used to provide coverage. :mad:

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It is not to say that the Raptors have done it all right. I mean training camps and pre-season games are great but I am sure that people in these places would be more happy to see regular season games. Also something the Raptors can not control as much as they would like is the media. When we look at the 4 major networks in this country for sports they all have varying degrees of support of the Raptors. Let’s take a look shall we.

CBC: Well it only took how long for CBC to bother to broadcast Raptor games? I know maybe that is not nice and after all the Raptors are going to be back on CBC for a second year. That is progress and it does mean something. I do hope the coverage is far better this year, as the last year of coverage on CBC’s broadcast was not so hot. CBC is not the sports network power they once were. Even on the major thing they do “Hockey Night in Canada” they let the theme of that show go and it lead to it being picked up and saved by rival network TSN. CBC is paid for by us the tax payers and I have to say I want more for my buck if they are going to cover the Raptors. They also have no other basketball programing to go along with the Raptors which does not help promote the game.

Sportsnet: I want to say on behalf of Raptor Fans and basketball fans that “YOU SUCK”. They dumped basketball and also Jack Armstrong. They let go of the NCCA Tournament a few years back and now the NBA. Why do they do this? To have more coverage of hockey and pay the owners of the Raptors a crazy amount of money to broadcast the Toronto Maple Leafs. They have turned their backs on basketball and basically I don’t even no why they bother sending any reporter to cover the team because it is a joke to think that basketball matters to them in the least. These are my opinions and I think they are shared by most people that are fans of basketball. Rogers who owns both Sportsnet and the Fan 590 sends a very mixed message to basketball fans. I have nothing but positive things to say about the Fan 590 and all the tremendous work they have always done in the coverage of the Raptors on radio. I often make mention of them and 3 of the people that are a huge part of that are frequent and supportive guests for this blog. I unlike them do not get a paycheck from Rogers so I can take shots at Sportsnet and I am because they deserve it.

The Score: Thank God for the Score if you are a basketball fan. They have done more to build up basketball coverage than anyone in this country and that includes Raptors TV. They have always given basketball a proper place on it’s air. True they still battle in the hockey wars with the other networks. But they do not insult basketball fans by doing it. They have added the NCAA Tournament and regular season coverage of the NCAA. They also broadcast the CIS Championships in Basketball. They were the only network that stepped up and covered team Canada trying to qualify for the Olympics. They have a long list of reasons that basketball fans should thank them. I have said it long before I used the bullhorn feature the use to have to promote my blog. I even got a recent mention about the blog from someone that blogs for them. But before any of that I understood that as a basketball fan, THE SCORE was doing more for me as a viewer than anyone else. I haven’t even mentioned Cabbie and all his funny NBA stuff and “The Baller” Adnan Virk…who I worked with before he was at The Score when he was at another network behind the scenes as was yours truly.

TSN: I worked here for a short time. I loved it and am proud to have got to know a lot of good people that taught me a lot about how big network sports works from the inside. But I will be very honest as a basketball network they have not exactly done a great job. I am hopefully by adding Jack Armstrong that will start to change. I am not a fan of Rod Black and his work on Raptor broadcasts. I was totally angered by the fact TSN decided to show a less than meaningful bowl game instead of the 1st quarter on the New Year’s Eve game vs the Hornets last season. It turned out to be one of the biggest wins of the Raptor season and Raptor fans were cheated out of seeing that entire game. It was wrong and many fans are not thrilled with the fact that TSN2 is going to be carrying a large amount of games as part of TSN’s package which is the largest of all the networks. I am not sure if Raptors TV will be picking up the games on TSN2 or not. In the past they did a similar move when games were on sportsnet in Ontario only and not picked up nationally. The point is TSN wants to embrace basketball fans I suggest to my former work place they not hold a gun to our heads. They do not help grow the game by doing this they help grow subscribers for TSN2 and thus make more money.

In general the media needs to give basketball more coverage. In the places outside of Toronto the basketball coverage in non existent in some cases. The cure for all of this is of course winning and that will force networks small and large to pay attention to them. Just hope that the six hockey teams in this country don’t do something on that day. I do suggest that you let your local media know that you want more Raptor coverage. I can not guarantee that it will change anything but you must do what you can to try if it truly matters to you. I am proud of the support this blog showed Jack Armstrong when it was learned Sportsnet was dumping basketball. I was happy to see that all of the people that cover the Raptors joined in that fight. Things have worked out great for Jack and hopefully the great support of Fans, The New Media(Like Me) and the established Media all came together helped. I have no idea if that impacted on the ultimate choice of Jack to his new post as TSN but it sure didn’t hurt him and he has said in this blog how much that meant to him to have all that support.

As for Raptors TV, they have been taking a lot of heat from fans and rightfully so. I think they need to do more and provide fans a lot more value for the money they pay. It means a lot more beyond pre and post game and replays of games and a few shows. I would like to see a new vision for Raptors T.V. Just off the top of my head you have a media aware star on this basketball team in Chris Bosh. Why do they not work with Chris and perhaps give him some kind of show to be a part of. There are many ideas I could come up with and I am sure they are looking to build Raptors TV into something better. But a small example of how things work with Raps TV was the L.A Game that was picked up by them that had really no main stream knowledge of that fact. They need to start investing dollars into doing more for Raptor Fans that choose to have this network as part of their digital package. The Raptors success on the court has not lead to more coverage by Raps TV it has lead to less. I am willing to share these ideas with them if they want to ask. Heck I will even do a show if they want. It would be better than the constant reruns of old games that we find on there far to often.
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Sportsnet had Marty York at one point reporting for them. That alone is enough to turn me off from Sportsnet.

Tsn is probably just as awful as Sportsnet when it comes to showing random snowboarding/strongman competitions that no one gives a shit about when the could be showing basketball games.

I can't really comment on the score since my cable blows.
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I could really care less which network covers the games, just as long at the commentators are tolerable. (aka No Leo please)
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I could really care less which network covers the games, just as long at the commentators are tolerable. (aka No Leo please)
No Leo,no Sherman Hamilton and i wish no Devlin! LOL

Let Jack do all the games himself? LOL
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No Leo,no Sherman Hamilton and i wish no Devlin! LOL

Let Jack do all the games himself? LOL
Knowing Jack I think he would be the first to tell you there is no way that can happen. For anyone checking this out the media part which is posted here( Thanks Doc and Welcome Back) was just part of a larger conversation that talks about Raptors building a national identity in the country as a whole. Seemed a good time to talk about it with Raptors in Edmonton.

I have to say as far as Matt and Sherm go I recently met both and they are good people and I think Sherm has come a long way as a broadcaster. It takes time to get good at this whole media thing. Matt has been nothing but fantastic to me and is always willing to do what he can to help me in my goals. I never got that kind of support from Chuck. I understand some will always love Chuck but he left and no one put a gun to his head and said go to Chicago. Matt wants to be here and I wish him all the best..It is not easy to follow Chuck Swirsky which is something I talked about with Paul Jones as he filled Chuck's shoes on Radio Broadcast awhile back. Well technically there was someone in between the two for a year but he understands how hard it is to fill Chucks shoes. Fact is you can't. For whatever you think of Chuck he was a unique individual
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I understand some will always love Chuck but he left and no one put a gun to his head and said go to Chicago. Matt wants to be here and I wish him all the best..It is not easy to follow Chuck Swirsky which is something I talked about with Paul Jones as he filled Chuck's shoes on Radio Broadcast awhile back. Well technically there was someone in between the two for a year but he understands how hard it is to fill Chucks shoes. Fact is you can't. For whatever you think of Chuck he was a unique individual
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Well.

I suppose from a fan perspective, I guess your post is fine.

But Dino, you of all people know damn well. it's about ratings, and seling ads.

Period.

Why should the major networks lose money on a product that doesn't have the punch the hockey product does in Canada. They are allowing the smaller media channels grow the sport, while maintaining thier own schedule and making $$$.

Once the return on investment is there, and the Raps become a higher ratings draw, you'll see more gameson bigger networks.

No need to be all angsty.
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I agree with the kudos to The Score. They've been head and shoulders above the other networks in basketball coverage. Good to see TSN making a commitment to the Raptors. Gotta say that RaptorsTV was a huge disappointment. I got rid of it after the first season and have never missed it.

Am I the only one who's glad to see Swirsky elsewhere. He really got on my nerves, especially when he was sticking up for Carter after the trade.
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Well.

I suppose from a fan perspective, I guess your post is fine.

But Dino, you of all people know damn well. it's about ratings, and seling ads.

Period.

Why should the major networks lose money on a product that doesn't have the punch the hockey product does in Canada. They are allowing the smaller media channels grow the sport, while maintaining thier own schedule and making $$$.

Once the return on investment is there, and the Raps become a higher ratings draw, you'll see more gameson bigger networks.

No need to be all angsty.
I understand all of that but first of all who is my audience? Fans. Part of what the Dino Nation Blog has always wanted to stand for is the Fans of the Raptors, NBA, And Basketball in general.

What I also understand that people in the suits at these network don't seem to get is a couple of other things. You can make money at Hockey and still do it with Basketball. There is only so much Hockey you can have. Does anyone think the massive amount that sportsnet paid for leaf games is going to turn a profit? When you factor in the economy and less ad dollars being out there you need to understand that Hockey can be over done. What do you do than when you have disrespected fans of other sports.

At the end of the day I agree and know what your saying but I am concerned about Basketball and it's rights and it's place. Truth is if the Raptors become successful on the floor they will all scramble like rats to get them on the air but fans should remember who has done what before that day happens.
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