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Dr. J. Naismith 09-09-2008 04:00 PM

Dino Nation: Raptor Fantasy Outlook For 08/09
James does his preview of the Raptors from a fantasy perspective for this season and so if your participating in a deep fantasy draft somewhere this fall, keep in mind some of those "other" Raptors besides Bosh, JO and Jose. ;)


Originally Posted by Dino Nation Blog
Very soon many of you may be starting to prepare for another season of basketball. For those who play Fantasy Sports that will mean getting ready for you Fantasy Drafts. I thought I would give you the honest take on the Raptor Players as far as a fantasy draft is concerned. It is important to note just because a player might not be a good fantasy selection will not mean that they can not do well in reality. So understand the opinons expressed in this blog are totally based on Fantasy Basketball and in no way have anything to do with the role they will play for the Raptors.

So letís get too it. First off here are Raptors that you are not buying or drafting unless you league is extremely deep. These guys may play key roles for the Toronto Raptors but for your fantasy squad they are not worth a pick:

Off The Draft Board

Nathan Jawai: Yes I think he could have a better season than most expect but from a fantasy perspective he likely is not going to play many minutes and get any kind of consistent minutes or numbers.

Will Solomon: It would take a lot of things going very wrong for the Raptors to make Will Solomon a pick in a draft. There is no reason to think he will even be in the teamís rotation at this point.

Kris Humphries: I love Hump but he is far down the depth chart and if I am right he wonít even be ahead of Natah Jawai when all is said and done. But even if I am wrong he is 4th guy out of 5 bigs on the Raptors. So no need to pick up Kris.

Joey Graham: I donít think you need to pick up Joey as well. He may get in the rotation and he may finally break through but I canít imagine anyone taking a risk on drafting Joey. In a very deep league he could be a late round steal. But that league better be very deep if you are picking him. Keep an eye on early season progress and if Joey gets some time and looks good he will be on the waiver wire.

Hassan Adams: Wait and see. I am not sure how much he will play and if that is enough to take the risk on him. Another guy to keep a close eye on early and scoop of the wavier wire if necessary.

So for those of you counting at home that leaves 8 players. It would take something beyond unusal to see there guys fall out of the rotation for the Raptors. So if they are getting the minutes than they are guys you can consider selecting:

On The Draft Board:

Roko Ukic: If you want to take a flyer on Roko with a late pick you can give it a shot. But it is not likely you can expect a high return. Calderon is expected to eat up 30 to 35 minutes a night and that leaves little time for Roko to produce. Unlike the last 2 years if you want a Raptor point guard there is truly only one selection to make and that is Calderon. If you find you team is in bad need of assists and just need a guy to give you something Roko might be good to get you a few a night but that is about all.

Jamario Moon: If selected in the proper place in a draft Jamario Moon can be a excellent pick for you. He is a fantasy dream player in the sense he gives you a bit of everything. Steals, Blocks, Scoring you will get a bit of all of that. The danger is that Moon is likely not going to be back as a starter. If Jason Kapono who is likely his replacement in the starting line-up steals minutes from Moon that is not good news. But in the late rounds Moon is a nice guy that gives you a bit of everything from a fantasy point of view.

Jason Kapono: Sleeper pick for anyone in the know about the Toronto Raptors. Kapono is going to get more minutes and more open looks from 3 point range. He will help any team as far as 3pt shoots, 3pt % and an overall jump in scoring. He is a solid fantasy role player that can slide down a draft board and could make a nice addition to any fantasy roster.

Anthony Parker: Much like Kapono we could see increased production for Anthony Parker. He is not a first round pick like his sister Candace. But he is a player that could see improved numbers on not just the offensive end like Kapono but on defensive side too. He may take more chances and increase his steal numbers which would be nice to see.

Andrea Bargnani: Hard to know what we can expect from Andrea Bargnani. He is a odd player from a fantasy point of view. A big who can get you 3 pointers but leaves you high and dry on the glass. If you are the hopefully sort you expect the numbers to improve this season. But he will have no chance of starting as long as Raptors have health Bosh and OíNeal. This may be one of those rare cases where less is more as relates to Andrea and his numbers. Most will sleep on him for his awful second season so wait it out and try to grab Andrea with a late pick. The more confidence you have in him bouncing back the likely earlier you are willing to take the risk. But just be calm and he should remain on the board deep into your draft.

Jose Calderon: Buyer beware on Jose Calderon. The common logic suggest that Calderon with more minutes he will be more productive. But it is not going to be the case. Jose and his numbers may even dip a little from last season. He had a break out year and to match that output would be rare. It is not to say Jose will not make an excellent fantasy selecetion he will. But is he a top 5 point guard from fantasy point of view? I say he is in the top 10. Some where in that 6-10 range. So if you take Jose Calderon to early donít blame me.

Jermaine OíNeal: If we buy what J.O was selling at his press conference in Toronto after the trade than he has a chance to be a steal of any fantasy draft. Many fantasy player fear guys with injury histories and guys like Marcus Camby and J.O can slip down draft boards. If you can manage to get OíNeal in anywhere after the 3rd or 4th round it could be a major victory for you. Expect OíNeal and his numbers to look more like the All Star Levels they had been at if he is truly healthy. He is a motivated player and I love drafting guys with something to prove.

Chris Bosh: Ready to be worthy of you first round pick? I think so. If Bosh can add to his defensive numbers even if there is a small offensive drop off it will make him a more complete fantasy player and could be worth a look in the first round of even a standard 12 pick first round. If Bosh slides beyond that you are really lucky. But the higher profile of Bosh will make that less likely. I mean the guy is going to be on Oprah today. The days of people not knowing about Bosh and sleeping on him in Fantasy Drafts are long over. He can be considered a player to build a fantasy roster around in my view.

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Superjudge 09-09-2008 04:12 PM

wrong on Calderon.

pure logic demands that if you are allowed to be highj on the guys he's feeding, then you have to be high on him.

Dip my ass, he's gonne challenge for the assist title and averaged about16 a game.

fancylad 09-09-2008 04:14 PM

oh man... i can't wait for fantasy basketball to start.

I wouldn't even mind doing two leagues affiliated with this forum (if there are that many takers).

Personally, I've never really liked picking raptors in the first few rounds. don't know why - but i just don't.

Dr. J. Naismith 09-09-2008 04:18 PM


Originally Posted by fancylad (Post 54544)
I wouldn't even mind doing two leagues affiliated with this forum (if there are that many takers).

Yeah, we'll set one up next month. We've been doing the NBA.com one for the last couple years, but my preference is the Yahoo one. Unless someone has a better suggestion for an RF fantasy pool. Anyone? :confused2:

fancylad 09-09-2008 04:23 PM

Yahoo, Yahoo, Yahoo!

Belsius 09-09-2008 04:25 PM

Ill be in, but I will need some guiding. I have never played.

Dr. J. Naismith 09-09-2008 04:35 PM


Originally Posted by Belsius (Post 54549)
Ill be in, but I will need some guiding. I have never played.

Well in that case .. LeBron = Bad Pick ..... Darrick Martin = Good Pick. ;)

fancylad 09-09-2008 04:37 PM


Originally Posted by Belsius (Post 54549)
Ill be in, but I will need some guiding. I have never played.

BEL. It's real easy.

You pick a team just like any GM from all of the players in the NBA. -a starting lineup, then some bench players. It's a draft - so we're all participating (you don't actually have to participate in the draft, but it's fun if you do)...

then our teams go head to head - based on how well the actual players perform.
One matchup lasts the whole week and takes into consideration how the players perform that week.

It's great and it really adds to the interest of the NBA season for me personally.

fancylad 09-09-2008 04:38 PM

yeah... like doc said - stock pile on retired players and you'll do just fiiine.

Gurk 09-09-2008 06:04 PM

I want to join

Apollo 09-09-2008 07:38 PM

No way everybody on that draft board gets picked. Bosh, O'Neal, Calderon, Parker and Moon are locks. Outside that, Kapono and Bargnani are maybes depending on a number of factors; last year neither ended up being worth a draft pick. Ukic is a sleeper who could be nabbed off the wire down the line after he proves something. Outside that draft board, everybody else isn't worth a look on draft day.

fancylad 09-09-2008 09:14 PM

Apollo, some of us old posters from the EBS forums would do fantasy leagues with thirty teams. THIRTY.

Humphries and Graham were someone's team, i assure you. A player like Kapono would have been a big time contributor.

Big leagues are really fun because it's hard to come up with a good team.

BTW, i hope a lot of the posters here join the fantasy league. IMO, the bigger the league, the more fun and challenging.

Shifty.py 09-10-2008 02:07 AM

I played fantasy last year and really looking forward to this season. But had hands full with one team, no idea how you do it with multiple.

moremilk 09-10-2008 12:58 PM

since espn.com is free this season, that might be a nice choice. Personally, I like yahoo way more than nba.com, but if they maintain their 20 players limit, it might be impossible to go there. We should probably start a pre-registration list asap so we can see how many people are interested.

Gurk 09-10-2008 04:29 PM

I am interested

Dino Blogger 09-11-2008 09:31 AM

If you guys set up a league I am in. As for the Jose Calderon thing Paul Jones in his interview with my blog agrees Calderon from number perspective should dip slightly. It is not to say his numbers won't be good just not as good as people hope or expect.

Dr. J. Naismith 09-11-2008 09:34 AM


Originally Posted by Dino Blogger (Post 55059)
If you guys set up a league I am in. As for the Jose Calderon thing Paul Jones in his interview with my blog agrees Calderon from number perspective should dip slightly. It is not to say his numbers won't be good just not as good as people hope or expect.

Come and add you name Dino. :D


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