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Old 05-29-2009, 12:52 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Well that interview for yesterday had to be re-scheduled. It happens. I have the people back on my roof banging again as well. To top it off the last Friday of the month means fire alarm testing. So I am a really happy camper today. I thought maybe I will just do a list of things that I need to get some faith back in the Raptors. Some might be serious, Some might be funny, Anyway here is the list such as it is. They are in no order.

Draft two players that can play in the rotation

Bring in a coaching staff that can help change the culture of this team

Be it Draft, Free Agent...Back-up point guard now.

Sign a guy that can impact on the wing. Ariza, Artest at the top of my wish list

Have someone explain to me how this team is better without Chris Bosh or have Bosh call and tell me he is staying.

6 no 12 no 24 beers.

Have the Orlando Magic and Toronto Raptors swap rosters?

Steve Nash

The reality of things is I am getting cranky waiting for answers. Even though not a lot of people agree with me I still say that a move that brings Steve Nash to Toronto is the best one. Hardcore basketball folks can debate the merits of it works on the floor. But for the casual basketball fan this would make them take notice of the Raptors perhaps in a way like they never have before. Steve Nash I think still has a few basketball years left in him. If the Raptors drafted a Ty Lawson or a Jonny Flynn how good could they be made by a Steve Nash as a mentor? I would venture to say that the answer is very good. There is all of this talk that sports is a business and if that is true Steve Nash is a great business move for MLSE. Let's face facts if Steve Nash comes here the Raptors will sell jerseys. I don't have numbers in front of me but just in looking around you see Nash jerseys at almost any basketball event you would choose to go to in this country. Jose Calderon will never be the draw that a Steve Nash is in Canada. I just think it is a risk worth taking. I have expressed it many times and remain convinced this a move that would help the Raptors. No idea if Bryan Colangelo agrees but the one thing is clear he has a lot of people to convince this off-season.
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Old 05-29-2009, 01:00 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I would need:

-Better coach (that ship has sailed)
-Backup PG
-Draft wing help/Big man (2 picks)
-Re-sign Marion
-Somehow get rid of Kapoono and/or Banks contract(s)
-Sign a starting SG either through MLE/FA/trade
-Seriously explore what can be had for Bosh (S&T)
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So, marketing takes precedence over? Nash, as great as a player he is/was, really has no place on this team right now. Keep Calderon. He was showing signs of what he can do last year. PG was not the problem of this team.

Next, how can we bring in a coaching staff to change the culture? Our head coach was part of the previous regime, therefore part of the culture that permeated that past god knows how many years. If we wanted to change cultures, we bring in a fresh new guy outside the organization. So, I don't see that one happening.
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Next, how can we bring in a coaching staff to change the culture? Our head coach was part of the previous regime, therefore part of the culture that permeated that past god knows how many years. If we wanted to change cultures, we bring in a fresh new guy outside the organization.


Triano has been part of this org. for 8 years now. That's helped alot, no?
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I would need:

-Better coach (that ship has sailed)
-Backup PG
-Draft wing help/Big man (2 picks)
-Re-sign Marion
-Somehow get rid of Kapoono and/or Banks contract(s)
-Sign a starting SG either through MLE/FA/trade
-Seriously explore what can be had for Bosh (S&T)
New play by play guy?

But let's nip this in the bud right now...

If Brian Colangelo is signing Steve Nash, he's signing him because he believes he can help the team; not because it's a "good business move." This team is not in a position to make moves just for the sake of making moves.
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I'll even go one further...

We already have our Canadian mascot in place.
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New play by play guy?
I don't think i should touch that one.
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I would need:

-Better coach (that ship has sailed)
-Backup PG
-Draft wing help/Big man (2 picks)
-Re-sign Marion
-Somehow get rid of Kapoono and/or Banks contract(s)
-Sign a starting SG either through MLE/FA/trade
-Seriously explore what can be had for Bosh (S&T)
Seriously explore what can be had for Bargs

then it would be good
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Seriously explore what can be had for Bargs

then it would be good
-Bargs makes 6Mil

-Bosh (if S&T) would make 20Mil (currently 15Mil)

Gee i wonder who would fetch more. Better yet, which is more likely to want to go? Hmmmmm
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I think everyone on this roster should be considered fair game if it brings in the right mix of players. So yeah, offers for Bargs should be considered as much as offers for Bosh.

If we're looking at a checklist, mine is pretty simple:

Bring in some toughness on the perimeter
Rebounders
High IQ players

If I'm making a list of guys I'd target:

Battier, Ariza, Harpring, L. Walton, Matt Barnes, Reggie Evans, Dahntay Jones, Nick Collison, Travis Outlaw, Raja Bell just off the top of my head.
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-Bargs makes 6Mil

-Bosh (if S&T) would make 20Mil (currently 15Mil)

Gee i wonder who would fetch more. Better yet, which is more likely to want to go? Hmmmmm
yea but are we getting $20 mil of crap

for example JO makes $21 mil
Parker/Billups make $12 mil
and players like Durant/Mayo are making $4 mil

we're looking for the quality of the player not the size of their contract
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yea but are we getting $20 mil of crap
So you think that if Bosh can be S&T or guarantee signing a contract with another team (his approval) that we would get crap?
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So you think that if Bosh can be S&T or guarantee signing a contract with another team (his approval) that we would get crap?
"crap" as in there's no way we'd be getting any more than 70 cents on the dollar for him. Per dollar I think you're going to get more value for Bargnani.
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So you think that if Bosh can be S&T or guarantee signing a contract with another team (his approval) that we would get crap?
when I look at the Chicago and Miami trades thats exactly what I think
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So, marketing takes precedence over? Nash, as great as a player he is/was, really has no place on this team right now. Keep Calderon. He was showing signs of what he can do last year. PG was not the problem of this team.

Next, how can we bring in a coaching staff to change the culture? Our head coach was part of the previous regime, therefore part of the culture that permeated that past god knows how many years. If we wanted to change cultures, we bring in a fresh new guy outside the organization. So, I don't see that one happening.
Marketing matters and with 7th hockey team becoming an issue sooner or later if you think it doesn't you are crazy. But it is not a simple marketing move.It is not like i am suggesting Jamal Maglorie here it is Steve Nash. I also suggest the idea of bringing in an under study which is your future PG.

As 2 the second part I agree but that ship sailed so the only way to do it now is through the staff. Triano was never my pick to coach this team.
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wow if ppl think we need a backup pg more then anything, we are really doomed.... no, tj ford/jose Calderon pairing isnt hiding behind the bend, most teams have pretty average backups or less then that, just they never have to start all year or that team is doomed. Roko/Quincy isnt the big issue here, jose staying healthy is much bigger, getting some toughness and slashing is much, much bigger.

I dont see how a 7th hockey team changes anything, hockey is dying, i wish ppl would take it off life support and let it die with dignity, toronto will be a basketball over hockey city for many years to come, dont let corporate sponsorships and $ fool you.
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Ugo, I will finally agree with you.

Having another hockey team here has nothing to do with the Raptors in all honesty. Basketball has a strong share of the market. The Raptors will never be a national team. They won't and I'd even argue that's do to the fact that much of the country hates Toronto and anything Toronto has.
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I think everyone on this roster should be considered fair game if it brings in the right mix of players. So yeah, offers for Bargs should be considered as much as offers for Bosh.

If we're looking at a checklist, mine is pretty simple:

Bring in some toughness on the perimeter
Rebounders
High IQ players

If I'm making a list of guys I'd target:

Battier, Ariza, Harpring, L. Walton, Matt Barnes, Reggie Evans, Dahntay Jones, Nick Collison, Travis Outlaw, Raja Bell just off the top of my head.
marcin gortat is a free agent this summer, i would love to see him playing for us.....
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i only need 1 change but its a big 1 and thats change a bunch of the players
if the right mix of players get on this team then i don't care about anything else, who cares who the coach is if the right players are on the team
the biggest problem really is that the current core players which i believe are cb, bargs, jose are all terrible defensive players and if 3 of the 5 on the court basically have zero D then you're in trouble, you basically only want to have 1 defensive liability on the team, well you really want zero but if they're that good offensively then you can get away with like 1 or 2 defensive liabilities, so basically you really got to think of getting rid of 1 or 2 of the core players because when it comes down to it you know those 3 are going to be on the court at the same time and this is not even counting the other 2 players on the court that are probably defensively crappy players too as nobody on the team plays D at the moment
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i only need 1 change but its a big 1 and thats change a bunch of the players
if the right mix of players get on this team then i don't care about anything else, who cares who the coach is if the right players are on the team
the biggest problem really is that the current core players which i believe are cb, bargs, jose are all terrible defensive players and if 3 of the 5 on the court basically have zero D then you're in trouble, you basically only want to have 1 defensive liability on the team, well you really want zero but if they're that good offensively then you can get away with like 1 or 2 defensive liabilities, so basically you really got to think of getting rid of 1 or 2 of the core players because when it comes down to it you know those 3 are going to be on the court at the same time and this is not even counting the other 2 players on the court that are probably defensively crappy players too as nobody on the team plays D at the moment
i disagree, i think Bargs has decent D, and isnt a liability......marion plays solid D most of the time, and parker has a good enough D......but we still need a upgrade at sg, and we need a true center and we cant have 2 pf playing at the same time....only if we can get a center like Howard...or even Thabeet.....
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