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Old 01-30-2010, 10:52 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Wow, Bosh has put up a massive 0.8 points per game more,(not impressive) and 1.5 rebounds(that is impressive) FG% is up a little not much, and his offensive rating is up a little as well.

He is down in every other statistical category including assists, Blocks, Rebounds, Turnovers(actually up), and defensive rating.

Free throws per game are the same


Me saying he plateaued is not a stretch at all and other than rebounding better he hasnt done ANYTHING to make me think otherwise. Contract year accounts for the slight improvement in other areas.



note: Numbers based off this time last season.
First of all, I don't know why you're basing numbers on this time last season.

Second of all, if you knew anything... anything, about basketball you would realize that Bosh has to deal with double teams... while Bynum gets free from people doubling Kobe.

Geez man, you made some ridiculous claims this summer. Everyone called you out on it and said you were whack. The season came... your claims were proven ridiculous and people KNOW you're whack now. Give up. Bosh is elite, everyone agrees.
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Old 01-30-2010, 11:01 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Also, you said Bosh is ahead in rebounds, then later say he's down in every statistical category including rebounding.
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Old 01-30-2010, 12:06 PM   #23 (permalink)
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First of all, I don't know why you're basing numbers on this time last season.

Second of all, if you knew anything... anything, about basketball you would realize that Bosh has to deal with double teams... while Bynum gets free from people doubling Kobe.

Geez man, you made some ridiculous claims this summer. Everyone called you out on it and said you were whack. The season came... your claims were proven ridiculous and people KNOW you're whack now. Give up. Bosh is elite, everyone agrees.
do you know your head from your ass?

or doyo think they are the same? perhaps they are.

and why is Bynum coming up when you campared Bosh to Kobe and I compared Bosh to Bosh last season same time.

Does that hopefully explain to you why I used Bosh's numbers from this point in the season last year to compare to his numbers at this point in time this season. does that make sense to you or do yoou need me to break it down a little more for you?

My claims still arent "whack", they are what they are, statistically Bosh is better at rebounding this year, a little better in PPG lesser in every other stat.

Offensive rating and defensive rating are virtually identical. (difference of net +1)

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Also, you said Bosh is ahead in rebounds, then later say he's down in every statistical category including rebounding.
If you knew how to read you would see that after stating that he was ahead in PPg and Rebounds per i said that "He is down in every other statistical category including"

good try though.
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Old 01-30-2010, 03:28 PM   #24 (permalink)
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My fault, I thought you were comparing Bosh last season to Bynum last season for some reason.

To compare Bosh to Kobe, you need to look at a time when kobe was playing with no other all-stars and not Phil Jackson... go ahead, look at what he did.

The only player who can do everything by himself with no help, is Lebron James. He can take any team in the league probably to the ECF. Kobe can't do that, Kobe needs help, Duncan needs help, Bosh needs help.
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Old 01-30-2010, 03:36 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Oh my god.

Category with Kobe, lay off the koolaid man.


Dumbest post I have ever read from you, and that is really saying something.

Bosh in Kobe's category.

Bosh one of the best players on the planet, all because he is number 5 in mvp race. best player on a barely over 500 team is in the same calss as kobe.

Fuck.

I've said it before and I'll say it again.....

WHAT did Kobe do when he didn't have Shaq or Pau beside him?

NOTHING. Same as Bosh when HE didn't have any quality teammates.

Both players are arguably the tops at their respective positions.... and both are top 10 players in the NBA this season and MVP candidates.

Irrational hate from you is nothing new though.
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Here comes the other class 1 homer.

You seriously try to put Bosh in the same category as Kobe, thats fucking hilarious and stupid.

Kobe
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31.5ppg
5.7rpg
5.3apg
1.5spg
.6bpg

Kobe did EVERYTHING.

Sure he missed the playoffs in the toughest conference in the West


I cant even beleive that I am putting forth the effort into someone having some of you guys take off blinders.



Kobe no better than Bosh.


how old are you and BMats 11 or 12?
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Old 01-30-2010, 04:32 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Saying Bosh has plateaued statistically is irrelevant. If the object of Bosh was to collect stats, than it might have some meaning, but it isn't, his objective is to win basketball games.

Sure their is some correlation between collecting statistics and winning, but at some point collecting individual stats would have an adverse effect on winning.

Having "plateaued" statistically in no way means that he has plateaued as a basketball player.
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Old 01-30-2010, 06:31 PM   #28 (permalink)
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Saying Bosh has plateaued statistically is irrelevant. If the object of Bosh was to collect stats, than it might have some meaning, but it isn't, his objective is to win basketball games.

Sure their is some correlation between collecting statistics and winning, but at some point collecting individual stats would have an adverse effect on winning.

Having "plateaued" statistically in no way means that he has plateaued as a basketball player.
That i can agree with.

And in terms of when this all originally came about back in the offseason that was something I said then.

I also remember using the example that add him to 2 or 3 other allstars ona team that his numbers go down but effectiveness would probably go up.



That is when it all started because alot of the guys here said that Bosh numbers would go up on a team with 3 or 4 allstars and Bosh on it.
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Snooch, Bosh IS in the same category as Kobe.

He's not as good as Kobe but they are both premier players in their respective positions. Dirk, lebron, melo, nash, garnett, wade, howard are also in the same category. None of them are better than Kobe with the exception of LBJ

Idk why you are overreacting the way u are
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Snooch, Bosh IS in the same category as Kobe.

He's not as good as Kobe but they are both premier players in their respective positions. Dirk, lebron, melo, nash, garnett, wade, howard are also in the same category. None of them are better than Kobe with the exception of LBJ

Idk why you are overreacting the way u are
the only, i guess, debate over who is better than Kobe, even at his position, in the nba is Wade, and Wade aint as good.

Bosh's competition is Dirk, Garnett both of whom are better than him.

Kobe is either the best or second best player in the game.

Bosh is arguably anywhere between 3rd and 1st at his position
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Here comes the other class 1 homer.

You seriously try to put Bosh in the same category as Kobe, thats fucking hilarious and stupid.

Kobe
10fta's
31.5ppg
5.7rpg
5.3apg
1.5spg
.6bpg

Kobe did EVERYTHING.

Sure he missed the playoffs in the toughest conference in the West


I cant even beleive that I am putting forth the effort into someone having some of you guys take off blinders.



Kobe no better than Bosh.


how old are you and BMats 11 or 12?
I'm in my 20s. Ask jumplvlan, I am in University.

You remember that sarcastic post you made about not making fun of Bosh anymore because he can do no wrong? And you remember how poster after poster verbally raped you because you're summer posts were so completely insane that people dismiss almost everything you say?

Take some time to re-read that thread...

Now, you remember how I said I wish Bargnani would stop being fairy on the court and stop playing like a 7 ft SG? Well he has, he's stepped up, regardless of how many points he's putting in, he plays with effort and heart. And my comments are now usually appreciative of Bargnani, his effort, and his not taking sh*t from no one attitude.

You on the other hand, continue to slander Bosh even though he's a top 10 player in the league (NBA.com rates him 5th).

You and PSI are the most biased posters on this forum. So stop talking shit and take some time to re-read what you wrote this summer.
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Old 01-30-2010, 07:52 PM   #32 (permalink)
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i'm tired of looking like a complete dumbass. maybe next year i won't overachieve in stupidness so people will take me seriously so i can win the stupidhead award.

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I mean, if your arguments are getting as insane as "he should have waited a couple seconds before hitting that game winner, that's why he sucks.." then there is really nothing you can do but give up right?
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Snooch.... it would help so much if you would just MAN UP AND ADMIT THAT YOU WERE WRONG.

Jeez... nothing wrong with having a strong opinion... but when the facts go AGAINST everything that you're saying you just look ridiculous.
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How old are you? 11-12?
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possible..why not?
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How old are you? 11-12?
What dos any of those posts prove, that the people mentioned have no clue about unbiased analysis of their "bestest guy".

You all know I am right, the bigger problem is that no one wants to admit it.


But thats cool. Cause I know I am right too.
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Old 02-01-2010, 11:46 PM   #36 (permalink)
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Kobe scored 44 today, the Lakers lose.

Bynum scores 5.

Anyone reminded of Chris Bosh's game against Milwaukee? Chris is definitely more in Kobe's league than Bynums lol.
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