DeRozan's Shot Creation Will Mean More Late Game Shots
Old 03-08-2011, 07:41 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I read this on RealGM and on the Daily news here in the forums. I would like to see DD take more late game shots. He seems confident and clutch sometimes with his jumpshot and his drive.
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Old 03-08-2011, 07:50 PM   #2 (permalink)
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He's definitely getting better. Earlier in the season, he would shy away from the ball in the fourth quarter.

He was a bounce away from being a hero last weekend, and I think the disappointment is going to help him in the future.
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Old 03-08-2011, 10:37 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Let DD take all the game winners this season. This season doesn't mean shit. If the shots go in then its a positive. If they don't then at least he is gaining experience and it can also give us an indication of how he can handle late game situtations in future seasons.
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Old 03-08-2011, 10:47 PM   #4 (permalink)
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DeRozan > Bargnani for game winning shots IMO.
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Old 03-08-2011, 10:51 PM   #5 (permalink)
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he really needs to develop his ball handling and the ability to shoot up to the 3 point line cuz that makes it a lot easier for the defense to clog up areas
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Old 03-08-2011, 11:02 PM   #6 (permalink)
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he really needs to develop his ball handling and the ability to shoot up to the 3 point line cuz that makes it a lot easier for the defense to clog up areas
I think he needs to work more on his dribble moves to become a more complete player, a la D Wade.
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Old 03-08-2011, 11:12 PM   #7 (permalink)
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dribbling skills and possibly post up skills to give him the ability in late game to get closer before he attempts a shot.
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Old 03-08-2011, 11:29 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Post moves are one of the things great guards do to master their game; it shouldn't be a focus until they've gotten past ball-handling, dealing with double teams, extending range out to 3s, getting consistent and-1s, etc.
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Old 03-08-2011, 11:30 PM   #9 (permalink)
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It's his second season. Hopefully this stuff will come to him.
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Old 03-08-2011, 11:48 PM   #10 (permalink)
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ball handling should be his #1 skill to learn for the offensive end
that will mean a wider range of moves to get his shot off and to get to the rim, better passing as he will be able to get to other areas of the floor easier and getting out of double teams
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Old 03-09-2011, 03:17 AM   #11 (permalink)
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bad news for Derozan,( before we went to overtime agianst the nets, Derozan had 4 shots in a row only made one in crunch time, Bargs didn't see the ball for 4 or 5 minutes when he was on fire, he finally gets the ball and because he hasn't seen the ball in so long throws up wild shot

Triano does a poor job seting guys up for the final shot

what was that shot by Bargnani, Triano had him siting at the top of the key during htat nets game,

Bargnani basically having to throw up a prayer


with all that said Derozan has been amazing lately, i've been impressed, honestly didn't expect him to be this good this early, we basically have two 20 point scorers on this team, we just need to surround them with defensive stoppers that shoot 3's and another high level type player and where not that far away from being competitive

I'm more than happy with Derozan and Bargs being the future of this team considering there age and athleticism, and both aren't affraid of the moment, they both can hit critical shots, its funny because Jose is the opposite never can hit a shot when we need it, would love to see Kyrie Iriving on this team
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Old 03-09-2011, 09:30 AM   #12 (permalink)
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bad news for Derozan,( before we went to overtime agianst the nets, Derozan had 4 shots in a row only made one in crunch time, Bargs didn't see the ball for 4 or 5 minutes when he was on fire, he finally gets the ball and because he hasn't seen the ball in so long throws up wild shot

Triano does a poor job seting guys up for the final shot

what was that shot by Bargnani, Triano had him siting at the top of the key during htat nets game,

Bargnani basically having to throw up a prayer


with all that said Derozan has been amazing lately, i've been impressed, honestly didn't expect him to be this good this early, we basically have two 20 point scorers on this team, we just need to surround them with defensive stoppers that shoot 3's and another high level type player and where not that far away from being competitive

I'm more than happy with Derozan and Bargs being the future of this team considering there age and athleticism, and both aren't affraid of the moment, they both can hit critical shots, its funny because Jose is the opposite never can hit a shot when we need it, would love to see Kyrie Iriving on this team
I highly doubt the final play vs the nets in 3OT game was set up for Bargs to take a 22ft shot. I think it was an ISO for Bargs to do what the defense gave him. He just messed it up using 10secs for headfakes and time was running low...
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DeRozan > Bargnani for game winning shots IMO.
I don't think so.
MJ was the best right?

Do you know how many he's missed?



Face it, if you play n a team where you get maybe 5-6 chances a year to be in that position, it's gonna be hard.

Derozan, Bargnani, any of them.

I will say this thought Don, if DD can get his act going, and there are both he AND Bargnani, that opens up a lot of options. I see option one as Derozan getting something moving toward the hoop, if the look is cut off, he has Bargnani waiting on a kick out, which, is where Bargnani shines. Bargs pull up isn't quite seasoned enough for the breakdown play.
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Old 03-09-2011, 12:59 PM   #14 (permalink)
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lmao Bargnani is so fail when it comes to late game situations haha...I cant stop laughing when I think about his attempt in London hahaha...triple overtime too haha
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Old 03-09-2011, 01:08 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Bargnani's two attempts against Hump against NJ were laughable. Talk about making it as easy as possible for the defender. They were the type of shot attempts you dream up when you're 15 years old having fantasies about hitting a fade away over two 7 footers for the NBA championship.

He could of dribbled Hump down to the freethrow line and shot an easy 15 footer. He had Hump completely at his mercy and opted to fool around with the ball behind his head before throwing up a prayer.

It was silly.
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Old 03-09-2011, 02:33 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Ok.

So whats your point?

It's a learning process. I've seen way worse.

ps. Hump played some seriously nice defence as well, played hard with his feet, took Bargs space away. Bargs needs his space, he isn't good at creating spacing yet.

it is what it is.
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Old 03-09-2011, 02:40 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Exactly.

I've seen Bargs hit lots of clutch buckets in late game situations, but I think that's one of the few times I've seen him given the ball and iso'd at the end of a game.
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Old 03-09-2011, 02:53 PM   #18 (permalink)
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as a Bargnani supporter, it's nice to read some rational posts preaching patience
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Old 03-09-2011, 03:12 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Bargnani has hit a handful of big shots. The three I remember off the top of my head are the four point play against Seattle (RIP), the buzzer beater against Portland in his rookie year, and the big three against Charlotte last year. There have definitely been others. In fact I've always thought of him as a clutch player, and his misses against New jersey haven't changed that.

But it's different hitting a big shot off a pass when you're the second or third option on a team versus being given the ball with 10 seconds left in the game and being told to win it.
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