DeRozan More Confident After Rookie Season
Old 06-19-2010, 12:28 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Ulmer: Looking back, how will you remember your rookie season?

DeRozan: It was a learning experience. I grew a lot. I was able to start a lot of games and go up against a lot of the top players. Just being able to look at what I did my first year, I am going to have the chance to go back and fix a lot of the things I think I could do better. It was great.

Ulmer: What are some of the things you want to improve on?

DeRozan: I want to extend my range, be able to extend the defence more. I want to read defences better and make it easier for my teammates to get buckets. I want to be more of a facilitator. You know, little things.
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Old 06-19-2010, 12:41 AM   #2 (permalink)
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So Athletic for a Kid his age, will only get better and quicker, Jumpshot will get better + everything about him will improve. imo

Ive always said that he will be the next Vince Carter in terms of Athletic Ability, He's willing on the Defensive end + if he could get a Consistant Jumper under his belt then he would be awesome.

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Um, his top priority should be to improve (dramatically) his ball handling skills. Forget about range, that can come later. All elite 2 guards have point guard level handling skills. Athletic wings without a handle end up like Gerald green or Joey Graham...
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Um, his top priority should be to improve (dramatically) his ball handling skills. Forget about range, that can come later. All elite 2 guards have point guard level handling skills. Athletic wings without a handle end up like Gerald green or Joey Graham...
Why can't he work on range at the same time as ballhandling? He can easily put up 200 shots a day and practice his handles. And IMO, if he develops his range, he would create more dribbling room.
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i did not suspect him pointing out defence twice in the same sentence. Gotta love him
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Old 06-19-2010, 02:01 PM   #6 (permalink)
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if he can get better at everything he says he's working on, then he's going open some eyes and be a player.

if he doesn't get better at all of that stuff, then he'd better at least become a very good defender that can hit the odd three, or do a little something within the offense as a facilitator. Anything less and it's hard to see him with a starting role.
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Why can't he work on range at the same time as ballhandling? He can easily put up 200 shots a day and practice his handles. And IMO, if he develops his range, he would create more dribbling room.
baby steps, he's 20
without dribbling you can't even get a shot off and he can't really dribble to the basket and draw fouls
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i did not suspect him pointing out defence twice in the same sentence. Gotta love him
once was referring to opposing defenses, not his own.
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i did not suspect him pointing out defence twice in the same sentence. Gotta love him
talk is cheap
how many time did Triano emphasis defense? every day
did it ever improve? no
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Old 06-19-2010, 02:43 PM   #10 (permalink)
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This kid can be a player, but putting his athletic ability on par with Vince Carter is a gross exaggeration. Vince had generational athletic talent, Demar's got hops but just not in the same league at all. I expected him to mention improving his ball handling but maybe that's just such a given he didn't mention it..
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I wish he said: "The main thing i want to improve is my defense and keeping players in front of me.....oh yeah and my shooting range"
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Old 06-19-2010, 03:20 PM   #12 (permalink)
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a guy like derozan isn't gonna get to show off his ball handling unless people respect his jumper. He's not a PG with elite quickness, He's not gonna get where he wants simply because he can dribble(rondo). That jumper needs to be money before anything else(and i beleive it will, mechanics are fine). Not worried about his handle at all, its gonna be foot work that will be the true factor in how good he can be assuming he developes the shot. If you think he has stone hands take a look at his Effortless left handed ally oop VS the knicks and then ask yourself how many players in the league could make that seem so easy.

Vince Carter pretty much averaged 25 ppg with a suspect handle, well kind of

rudy gay is putting up 20 as well and thats with no help from the refs cause he doesnt sell jerseys. Rudy gay is no harlem globetrotter with the ball, but that shot is beautiful and coming off screens nobody can touch it
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a guy like derozan isn't gonna get to show off his ball handling unless people respect his jumper. He's not a PG with elite quickness, He's not gonna get where he wants simply because he can dribble(rondo). That jumper needs to be money before anything else(and i beleive it will, mechanics are fine). Not worried about his handle at all, its gonna be foot work that will be the true factor in how good he can be assuming he developes the shot. If you think he has stone hands take a look at his Effortless left handed ally oop VS the knicks and then ask yourself how many players in the league could make that seem so easy.

Vince Carter pretty much averaged 25 ppg with a suspect handle, well kind of

rudy gay is putting up 20 as well and thats with no help from the refs cause he doesnt sell jerseys. Rudy gay is no harlem globetrotter with the ball, but that shot is beautiful and coming off screens nobody can touch it
Exactly.

Secondly, plus if he has a half decent jumper that players respect, just have him curl off screens and get him open. If a defender jumps at him, fake and blow by him. You don't need advanced dribbling skills do that.

Teams cheat on him all the time b/c they don't respect his shot.

I'm still really excited by this kids potential. We'd be dumb to just give up on him. He has the tools to be a 16-18 ppg player and be a very good defender as well. He just needs to work.
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He needs to spend more time in the weight room though
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Give him a break for his defense he was a rookie.....and clearly the main thing he needs to improve is ball handling. If he gets a nasty crossover, he'll be able to get to the rim at will. He'll be fkn amazing
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Give him a break for his defense he was a rookie.....and clearly the main thing he needs to improve is ball handling. If he gets a nasty crossover, he'll be able to get to the rim at will. He'll be fkn amazing
Dribbling is overrated.
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a guy like derozan isn't gonna get to show off his ball handling unless people respect his jumper. He's not a PG with elite quickness, He's not gonna get where he wants simply because he can dribble(rondo). That jumper needs to be money before anything else(and i beleive it will, mechanics are fine). Not worried about his handle at all, its gonna be foot work that will be the true factor in how good he can be assuming he developes the shot. If you think he has stone hands take a look at his Effortless left handed ally oop VS the knicks and then ask yourself how many players in the league could make that seem so easy.

Vince Carter pretty much averaged 25 ppg with a suspect handle, well kind of

rudy gay is putting up 20 as well and thats with no help from the refs cause he doesnt sell jerseys. Rudy gay is no harlem globetrotter with the ball, but that shot is beautiful and coming off screens nobody can touch it
Yeah that's true.
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Dribbling is overrated.
reminds me of that Boondocks episode where Riley could dribble and couldn't shoot for shit


lets get Rudy Gay here, make it happen BC
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Um, his top priority should be to improve (dramatically) his ball handling skills. Forget about range, that can come later. All elite 2 guards have point guard level handling skills. Athletic wings without a handle end up like Gerald green or Joey Graham...
Agreed 100%. If anything, having a jump shot is overrated. Having a jump shot is required to be great, to take your game to the next level, but if you can't create off the dribble then, unless your J is like young Ray Allen, you're toast. If you have a great J but not the skills to get off a shot under pressure, then you will be a spot shooter your whole career in the NBA. And DeMar is not going to develop a Steve Kerr or Ray Allen level jumper.

-Rondo doesn't have a consistent J yet. He was still absolutely dominating in games this year.

-Derrick Rose doesn't have a J either, and he's a beast to contain.

LeBron's J wasn't very reliable his first year, but he found ways to score in other ways.

IMO with DeMar's athleticism, his goal should be to find ways to get to the basket and manufacture points. A J is a nice asset to have, but not essential. Look at Cory Maggette (lack of effort on D or giving a shit in general aside). Mags puts up around 20ppg by getting to the line 8-9 times a night and driving all the time.

IMO you get the respect from the refs first, and prove your value first, then you get a consistent J.

Heck Michael Jordan had a shitty jumper in his first couple seasons in the league, but he was still an absolute terror to guard. MJ scored 28ppg as a rookie despite not being a good jump shooter at all!

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Dribbling is overrated.
Dribbling is overrated; being a threat to penetrate is not. If defenders don't respect your ability to drive and get past them, then they'll crowd you every time.

Chris Paul is a good example of this. He can freeze the D with his fakes and body positioning because they know that if they crowd him too close, he's driving straight into the lane and he's either going to score or dish off to a teammate. He doesn't even need to dribble sometimes to create for his teammates because the threat of his dribbling and sucking in the D is too strong.

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i did not suspect him pointing out defence twice in the same sentence. Gotta love him
In the same paragraph you mean.

Yeah - neither mention of defence was about playing any. One was about reading defences for scoring opportunities for himself, and the other was about passing/creating opportunities for his teammates.

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he can talk the talk.
but can he walk the walk?

i sure hope so.
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