Derozan/Lowry are the best back court in the playoffs
Old 05-01-2014, 05:46 PM   #1 (permalink)
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1. Kyle Lowry/DeMar DeRozan Drake Lint Rollers, We The North slogans, an owner who screams expletives at the crowds before games–anyone else grabbing a boarding pass for Toronto? Plus, that crowd in Toronto looks like it belongs in one of Drake’s music videos; Toronto is doing the NBA Playoffs right. Hard to blame them when Kyle Lowry and DeMar DeRozan are giving T. Dot something to cheer about. The Raptors are shoving that $100 million-plus payroll right back to Russia with Mikhail Prokhorov.

Is there a player that’s been proving their worth more than Kyle Lowry this postseason? After an incredible regular season, averaging 17.9 points, 7.4 assists, 4.7 rebounds and 1.5 steals, no one knew what to expect from Lowry in the playoffs, who would be leading the Raptors against a Brooklyn squad that “tanked” to face them. Lowry has upped the anty to 21.8 points, 5.2 assists and 4.4 rebounds, shooting 45 percent from the floor and 41 percent from range. Lowry was snubbed as an All-Star selection this year in favor of Joe Johnson, and he’s proving why he deserved to be on that roster. Lowry has been most impressive in Toronto’s past two victories, averaging 29.0 points, including a 33-point, six-assist performance in Game 5.

The craziest thing about all of this? Well, the Raptors almost traded Lowry to the Knicks for Raymond Felton earlier this season–yeah, James Dolan really doesn’t know basketball. The Raptors All-Star, DeMar DeRozan, has been showing out too. After a questionable Game 1 performance, scoring 14 points on 3-of-13 shooting, people assumed DeRozan just wasn’t ready to handle the pressure that came with the playoffs. How has DeRozan responded? DeRozan scored 30 points in Games 2 and 3, then 24 points in Game 4 and 23 points in Game 5. He’s averaging 26.8 points per game in the past four games. Overall, DeRozan is putting up 24.2 points, 4.2 boards and 3.0 assists per game. His shooting percentages are ugly, so I won’t even bring them up. However, DeRozan has been consistent at getting to the free throw line, shooting eight or more free throws in every game this series, knocking down 89 percent of them. DeMar DeRozan isn’t shying away from the big moment and neither are the Raptors as a whole.

As a duo, Lowry and DeRozan are responsible for 47 percent of the Raptors’ offense in the playoffs. The two are responsible for carrying the city of Toronto on their backs, too, responsible for building something special that the city of Toronto hasn’t felt since Vince Carter was in purple and black. Watch out, the Raptors are quickly becoming one of the most dangerous threats in the Eastern Conference, with Lowry and DeRozan leading the charge.

Yes, the Raptors have the best backcourt in the NBA Playoffs so far this postseason. Just look at the numbers. DeRozan and Lowry are responsible for 47 percent of Toronto’s offense. The Raptors don’t win a game without this combination. Unlike any other backcourt, Lowry and DeRozan are both averaging over 20 points per game. The numbers don’t lie here: Lowry and DeRozan are the best backcourt still standing in the NBA Playoffs. - See more at: Dime Magazine (dimemag.com) : Daily NBA News, NBA Trades, NBA Rumors, Basketball Videos, Sneakers Blog Archive The 5 Best Backcourts In The NBA Playoffs
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12th in shooting percentages
10th in rebounds
10th in assists
13th in turnovers
14th in steals
4th in points
9th in offensive rating
11th in defensive rating
11 in net difference

I love the guys, but this piece MIGHT be a little bit of a stretch.
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12th in shooting percentages
10th in rebounds
10th in assists
13th in turnovers
14th in steals
4th in points
9th in offensive rating
11th in defensive rating
11 in net difference

I love the guys, but this piece MIGHT be a little bit of a stretch.
Those numbers aren't in the playoffs. And in points for a starting back court they were 2nd in the regular season and are 1st (46.8ppg) in the playoffs. Where are you getting those numbers?
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They are first in points. I take it the rest of your numbers are whack as well snooch. The piece is about the playoffs.
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numbers don't tell the importance of our backcourt
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Those numbers aren't in the playoffs. And in points for a starting back court they were 2nd in the regular season and are 1st (46.8ppg) in the playoffs. Where are you getting those numbers?
I pulled numbers from here:
NBA Stats - Teams Overall

sortable team stats for playoffs, sorted by starters and guards.

what am i missing here?
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I pulled numbers from here:
NBA Stats - Teams Overall

sortable team stats for playoffs, sorted by starters and guards.

what am i missing here?
Those numbers are flat out wrong. They showed the best scoring starting back court in the NBA playoffs today on NBATV and Lowry/Derozan are number one.
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Old 05-01-2014, 11:23 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Yeah, those stats are completely wrong. GS's starting backcourt is averaging about 39 points per game and shooting 44.5%. There's not a chance that Indiana's starting backcourt of Stephenson and Hill are averaging 50 points per game even with advanced statistics.

And I have no idea how GS's rebounding numbers are that high. Lowry and DD collectively have a higher rebounding efficiency than Curry and Thompson.

The minutes column on the table is odd.
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Wow Snooch is back?
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Yeah the NBA.com team overall is messed up(Toronto PPG is correct, a lot of it is wrong). You can look at the players overall and tell the team is messed up. Players overall is working. Demar is 4th & Lowry is 6th. No other team has two in the top 10 in PPG among starting guards.

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Yes they are.....and once Ross get's rolling,it's a wrap!
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I think they are the best as Paul/Crawford and Curry/Thompson have underperformed.

And even if they haven't been the best, they've certainly been the 'Most Valuable'.
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I think they are the best as Paul/Crawford and Curry/Thompson have underperformed.

And even if they haven't been the best, they've certainly been the 'Most Valuable'.
Well, I suspect that Paul/Crawford and Curry/Thompson "under-performing" is partly due to them playing against each other.
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lowry was amazing considering his injuries and all that
demar has been mediocre at best considering his defense, if not worse ...
together they've been ok, but really far from the best

looking at PER, demar is right about average for production, but his defense was probably bottom 20% among playoff starters. Lowry is 20th in the league in PER with mostly good defense (elite at times, but also subpar at times).

It's interesting that SGs really struggled so far shooting, as bad as demar was, he's still middle of the pack and only a handful of shooting guards get the attention he's getting from the opposing defenses.

The truth is, it's hard to judge by numbers because there are so few games played against the same opponent over and over. Maybe demar would be a lot more effective against Washington for example, but BKN's defense is clearly bothering him a lot. Then again, we're trying everything we can to slow JJ down and he's still crushing us.
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The truth is, it's hard to judge by numbers because there are so few games played against the same opponent over and over. Maybe demar would be a lot more effective against Washington for example, but BKN's defense is clearly bothering him a lot. Then again, we're trying everything we can to slow JJ down and he's still crushing us.
I was thinking about that as JJ was erasing a 26pt lead for BKN.....this is when I had started wishing that Gay would have worked out for the Raps. I think he would be strong enough and talented enough to contain JJ better than most of the Raps players and TR could be coming off the bench.
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What i don't understand is why casey when we were falling don't go to fields to defend JJ.

but for our futur we need a guy type James Johnson, whom can guard big guard through bid 4. Honestly i really wish he was here instead of stone or buycks, because he would have give us the defense on JJ or Pierce.

hope Masai can go after a guy like that !
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What i don't understand is why casey when we were falling don't go to fields to defend JJ.

but for our futur we need a guy type James Johnson, whom can guard big guard through bid 4. Honestly i really wish he was here instead of stone or buycks, because he would have give us the defense on JJ or Pierce.

hope Masai can go after a guy like that !
I agree though Johnson was a bonehead that had to bounce around to get it but the Raps sure could use him now. In this scenario, I hope MU drafts a player like Adreian Payne (my preference), 6-9 with a 7' wingspan and can shot 3's and plays back to the basket.

as for Fields....I think he's still hurt though if not, he will definitely play. Oh I find it ironic...most fans wanted Fields gone and now a lot of those same fans wish he could be playing lol

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What i don't understand is why casey when we were falling don't go to fields to defend JJ.

but for our futur we need a guy type James Johnson, whom can guard big guard through bid 4. Honestly i really wish he was here instead of stone or buycks, because he would have give us the defense on JJ or Pierce.
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hope Masai can go after a guy like that !
You aren't the only one. CAsey dumbfounds me with his rotations. Hayes over VAlenciunas; why did Lowry sit so long when lead was evaporating;someone to bump JJ and use up some fouls;Salmons is done;

Despite Lowry heroics DWayne almost shit the bed. I will die if they resign this guy. HE cannot make any coaching changes during live game.He may be a great defensive mind but he needs help running with the big boyz.
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You aren't the only one. CAsey dumbfounds me with his rotations. Hayes over VAlenciunas; why did Lowry sit so long when lead was evaporating;someone to bump JJ and use up some fouls;Salmons is done;

Despite Lowry heroics DWayne almost shit the bed. I will die if they resign this guy. HE cannot make any coaching changes during live game.He may be a great defensive mind but he needs help running with the big boyz.
They haven't been that bad overall, great at times, wonky at others. He's got to learn sometime and he's back next year so he will get another chance.

Not like Pops or Sloan or PJ popped out of their mothers wombs with a clipboard and whistle in hand...just saying, even those guys had to learn as well.
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