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Old 01-03-2012, 10:44 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Ok, i know Derozan said he was working on hitting three's all off season but he's impressing me so far, he's not forcing them either and just taking them within the flow of the game and what's impressing me more is that he's already hit 2 or 3 late game 3's when we needed them. He's currently shooting 62% from deep which is obviously nowhere near what he'll shoot but where do you think Derozan can be percentage wise with his 3pt shooting this season.

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Old 01-03-2012, 11:39 AM   #2 (permalink)
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i agree it's nice to see him put them up as they come to him and not force his hand. good over/under..i personally see him in between 33-34% for this season.

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Old 01-03-2012, 11:40 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Right now I'm not confident in his 3 point shot, he still has a lot to prove in that department. Lets be serious, if its a game winning 3 that we need no one wants DeRozan to shoot it if we have Bargnani or Calderon open.
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His shot looks really good. And he's taking good shots. That's not always the case with Jose and Bargnani, so if DeMar gets the open look, I'll be more than happy to see him fire away in the clutch.

But I really look forward to seeing how this might open up his overall game. This could help open up some space for him to drive and break down defenses a little more, even with some limited handles.
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Old 01-03-2012, 12:01 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I think he'll finish around 37%.

His 3-point shot looks quite good. He's getting good lift and extension on his shot. He now needs to translate that form to his midrange game, which has been inconsistent. He's been shooting quite a few bricks from the 15 to 18 foot range.
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I think he'll finish around 37%.

His 3-point shot looks quite good. He's getting good lift and extension on his shot. He now needs to translate that form to his midrange game, which has been inconsistent. He's been shooting quite a few bricks from the 15 to 18 foot range.
Hmmm... that is a bit of an oddity isn't it? That was always his strength. I think it might come down to being asked to take on a new role that incorporates the whole team rather than the island he was asked to play on before. He is one of the few guys getting big minutes that is still in the process of learning how to play the game the right way, and it's meant for some hesitation in those instances where he was free to play with blinders on before. The good news is that he's always been willing to look for others, but now he gets no green light at all for playing in a Barbosa style. He's really gotta use his head every possession now.
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Old 01-03-2012, 12:41 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Hmmm... that is a bit of an oddity isn't it? That was always his strength. I think it might come down to being asked to take on a new role that incorporates the whole team rather than the island he was asked to play on before. He is one of the few guys getting big minutes that is still in the process of learning how to play the game the right way, and it's meant for some hesitation in those instances where he was free to play with blinders on before. The good news is that he's always been willing to look for others, but now he gets no green light at all for playing in a Barbosa style. He's really gotta use his head every possession now.
His midrange game is surprisingly inconsistent this year. It seems he is overextending and getting too much lift on this shots, resulting in him shooting the ball long or just completely shooting an air ball.

Part of it could be, as you mentioned, that he's a bit more hesitant and looking to make plays for others. There definitely have been occasions this year where he could have driven to the lane hard, but instead he slowed down to allow a play to develop or to look for a teammate. There also have been times where he appeared to be caught between whether to create a shot for himself or just pass the ball to a teammate, resulting in him taking a hesitant shot.
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His midrange game is surprisingly inconsistent this year. It seems he is overextending and getting too much lift on this shots, resulting in him shooting the ball long or just completely shooting an air ball.

Part of it could be, as you mentioned, that he's a bit more hesitant and looking to make plays for others. There definitely have been occasions this year where he could have driven to the lane hard, but instead he slowed down to allow a play to develop or to look for a teammate. There also have been times where he appeared to be caught between whether to create a shot for himself or just pass the ball to a teammate, resulting in him taking a hesitant shot.
Oscar Robinson said that the hardest part of the game, and the most important, is knowing when to shoot and when to pass. Ultimately, knowing when to drive comes into the equation as well. Up to now, DeMar hasn't really been asked to develop that sense too much. This team really had very little of any kind of a halfcourt game.

A lot of his midrange shots in the past also came from pull-ups after declining to take the longer range shots, so maybe the improved range has taken those away some.
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Oscar Robinson said that the hardest part of the game, and the most important, is knowing when to shoot and when to pass. Ultimately, knowing when to drive comes into the equation as well. Up to now, DeMar hasn't really been asked to develop that sense too much. This team really had very little of any kind of a halfcourt game.

A lot of his midrange shots in the past also came from pull-ups after declining to take the longer range shots, so maybe the improved range has taken those away some.
I would argue that that is EXACTLY what he was expected to develop. He had no idea how to get his offence when he joined the NBA. Lets not forget he's only a shortened NCAA season from HS. He had no game, just talent. I think what you're seeing is Demar have a hard time fitting his game into the offense because he seems to be thinking about what he is looking for long before the play develops. He wants that up-fake, dribble to the middle pull up but he refuses to turn it down once he makes his mind up, result, off balance shots with a hand in his face.

the shots he's taking in the fllow have been nice... in fact one thing I loved a few games ago was him in the mid post, in the flow, no thought, just reaction and it was a thing of beauty.
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Oscar Robinson said that the hardest part of the game, and the most important, is knowing when to shoot and when to pass.
Love this though LX. Great quote.
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If you have good mechanic and work hard, it will improve. Just take a look at J Kidd or D Rose!
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Right now I'm not confident in his 3 point shot, he still has a lot to prove in that department. Lets be serious, if its a game winning 3 that we need no one wants DeRozan to shoot it if we have Bargnani or Calderon open.
What did you want.. Ray Allen type of 3's from Derozan..
he is shooting it very well.. you can see that he has the range.. last year it looked out of his range
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the key is that he's only taking open shots for the most part, so if that continues he'll definitely end up with a high percentage.
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Old 01-03-2012, 05:12 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Improving individual offensive skills is necessary but not sufficient to become an efficient and reliable scorer. DeRozan now needs to see how his skills fit into Casey's offensive scheme. This will take some time, intelligence and good coaching. But I think it will come with time. He definitely has an improved arsenal, and when he understands how and when to use it he will show improved results in the flow of the game.
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He was 5 for 52 last year and he's 5 for 8 this year, so certainly he's improved in this area. He needs to take the next step and develop his handle so he can capitalize on an improved outside shot when teams start playing him for it.
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Old 01-03-2012, 08:05 PM   #16 (permalink)
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over - the key will be the quantity...he's not going to be a volume shooter from deep.
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He was 5 for 52 last year and he's 5 for 8 this year, so certainly he's improved in this area. He needs to take the next step and develop his handle so he can capitalize on an improved outside shot when teams start playing him for it.
nice catch there - he can miss the next 43 and still show improvement
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Old 01-24-2012, 10:12 PM   #18 (permalink)
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as of January 24, 2012

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Old 01-24-2012, 10:24 PM   #19 (permalink)
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that's still pretty damn good considering everything
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that's still pretty damn good considering everything
3 weeks ago he was shooting 60% and he barely takes 3's anymore. It's only going to get worse.
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