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Yea i agree with SSJ nba players now days are amazing athletes. MJ ran 40 yard dash in 4.3 seconds once, his normal time was 4.5 or so. I'm guessing that average nba guard can run it in under 5seconds, add their height and crazy leaping ability and that ''open shot'' becomes contested in a hurry!

Grizz

Do you have a link to this? Not necessarily questioning it, just never seen this stuff written about before.

LX

All I know is that Reggie and Ray talked about how much they hated the idea that they could just roll out of bed and start hitting shots. They made a big point in dispelling the notion when Ray broke Reggie's record for threes. I would suspect that guys that decide they have a great feel for shooting don't go nearly as far as those that take a ton of shots in practice every day. I'm not denying the value of having a good feel for it, but that shit can get lost in a hurry.

And yeah - that's what she said.

LightsOut

lol I said tons of talent, not no talent at all

LightsOut

ye I agree, but I think a big reason they spend time on shooting before games is to mentally prepare , just to get in the zone rather than practicing to get better
or keep shooting like they do.

LightsOut

no doubt not gonna argue that, again I'm not saying I can shoot amazing in the nba just saying shooting is not something you develop to become great at.

Superjudge

X1000 LX, I couldn't agree more. There are guys that are pure shooters, some can, some can't, but that really only defines your role as you develop, to truly perform, the repetition involved in mind boggling. My old V-ball coach used to call it touches, he'd say every touch performed with proper technique is a step forward in your progress as a player. Or simply said, you play how you practice.

Ray Allen, as LX points out, does not fall out of bed and hit shots. He falls out of bed, works out for 2 hours, hits the gym to jack up about 2-3000 under control shots from various spots, and with specific scenario's in mind. he does this every day in the off season, and does a lot of it during the season.

Ever hear of this...Good shooters get the roll? You make your own luck? it isn't luck if you practiced it?

Bringing this back to the original post. Lets not forget one thing about Derozan. His first few weeks back he was coming off the beginning of some real repetition if all reports are correct and we saw the results. he could shoot. He wasn't throwing as he has reverted back to again, his released was higher. But, then the season, and ZERO practice time arrived and his progress was stunted. He has lost what he gained it seems.

Hopefully the next offseason for him is a trip back to what he was doing. Maybe he can get that groove back.

LET'S GO RAPTORS!!!!!

Anyhow, raps' starting SG next year will be Beal, Lamb or Tyreke Evans

jeffb

It'll be Derozan

LET'S GO RAPTORS!!!!!

I really hope not but you're probably right. I am not too content with the roster right now.

The starting PG is an ideal backup and his ballhandling and decision making is more conservative than the omnibus crime bill. The other PG is substantially better when starting yet, despite being on par or better than the other PG at everything, he is not appreciated because he'll average 2-3 apg less than the other PG (even though he'll expire and won't be brought back to save $, and he was never evaluated properly).

SG- the apparent future SG for the raps can't shoot, can't defend, can't handle the ball, can't pass, can't rebound, etc. The player at times looks to the refs to bail him out. Also, he sometimes doesn't do the only thing he's good at, attacking the rim. The other SG is a utility man who will can play PG and SF if need be (ie. injuries, maybe matchups)

SF - there is a SF on this team that defends well, was one of the few pleasant surprises this season, but now has "internal issues" with the coach.
The other SF will be a reserve for the next few years.

PF - There are 3 decent PFs. One finally played up to his potential but there is only a 13-20 game sample of it. He still can't rebound or defend. Another was playing quite well with the PF who took many years to show what he could do. Then he kind of faded but is committed to the team and will be here and do as he's told. The other PF will most likely be dealt soon as he won't get playing time here but can become a 10/10/1-2 PF in the NBA.

C - the C for this team hasn't played for the team yet. One of those Cs signed this year will have a different role with his hometown team very soon. The other C who signed here provides some size but will look for his $ this summer and will most likely not be here. The last C might not be in the league anymore.

This team needs a starter in this draft. This team has to draft best player available. If T.Robinson can be a 14-20 ppg, 8-10 rpg player, with decent D, Bargs should go. No player on this roster is irreplaceable and none should have a guaranteed starting spot on next season's roster. BC has a lot of work to do.

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Jordan
CNN/SI - Michael Jordan Retires - Flashbacks: A Towering Twosome - Thursday January 14, 1999 11:12 AM (it says somewhere in the midle) there are more sources but im lazy to search, you should know how to use google by now

When it comes to other nba guards I'm just assuming that average guard could run it under 5s, im sure players like wade lebron etc, could do it faster